TRANSGENDERCelebrated UK child protection charity - Childline - caught advising young girls to use chest binders and puberty blockers behind parents’ backs.

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[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

This is massive. Childline is featured in every classroom and corridor of every school in the country. They are supposed to be the place where children can turn no matter what and they have betrayed that completely, no to mention broken the rules of safeguarding by talking about keeping secrets.

[–]Haylstorm 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Yeah that's setting off alarm bells for me. Safeguarding has to be consistent though I can see an argument for the safety of the child. But if you think there's a genuine threat that the parents will harm/murder the kid over it surely you need to be talking with social services to get them removed?

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

As is increasingly the case with stuff like this, I have a pretty short list of suspects who could be interested in convincing kids that it's okay to have secrets about their bodies that they only share with certain adults.

[–]Haylstorm 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It just saddens me because this feels risky. Like if there's a genuine risk of harm and you're encouraging these kids to hide something and they get caught? You are potentially responsible for that child getting killed. Everything about it feels off.

[–]LyingSpirit472 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why do you hate the stunning and brave necrosexual pedosexuals? They deserve a steady stream of the corpses they prefer to have sex with too. Check your privilege!

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But if you think there's a genuine threat that the parents will harm/murder the kid over it surely you need to be talking with social services to get them removed?

Yeah, at a school you would call the emergency social services number and a massive system rolls into action, I imagine that they have access to similar because childline does work with the authorities.

But 99% issues kids report aren’t the parents abusing them or at least not in a way that poses an immediate danger.

[–]Haylstorm 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think that's why it's bothering me, especially the puberty blockers. If you don't know then surely you're going to worry about your child not developing normally? I get that small things can add up and those small reports can build a real case but this isn't the sort of thing that childline should be handling.

Frankly this feels like it's more likely to put these children at risk if they get caught because now their parents have evidence that they're hiding something from them which could have devastating consequences.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes exactly. You can call these people out on their bullshit easily.

I'm definitely sympathetic to the gay or trans kid with actually murderous psychopath parents. That's a horrible and fortunately rare situation. But if I'm aware of such a situation I'm absolute not as fuck telling the kid "oh go back home to your psychopath family and hope your secret doesn't leak so you don't get murdered", no I'm getting the authorities involved if I believe that.

No most of the time it's "My parents don't accept my new gender pronouns" to which my response is something more like, whatever, though luck kid. I don't either. Lots of people don't. Congrats, that's something you're going to have to learn to live with if you want to be transgender, and frankly if it bothers you that's a sign you aren't "actually transgender" since you require external validation rather than simply accepting yourself.

I report teachers who play the whole "We need to keep stuff secret from the kids parents because the kids life is in danger" for failing to report stuff. They are largely idiots but if you go and say you believe the kids life is in danger and you fail to report that that's a big fucking deal. That can get you fired. And I'm happy to see them fired.

[–]Haylstorm 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Like I can accept needing to keep a detailed list of reports 'secret' so you can make sure you get the kid out of there with enough evidence they won't be returned the next day. But in todays social media age where the parents might idk follow an instagram account of their child and they catch that behaviour you've encouraged at school/theoretically out of the parents view? As far as I'm concerned you are complicit. You might not have pulled the trigger but you sure are putting them directly in the firing line and that is unacceptable in a role where you're meant to be protecting these kids.

Frankly if a parent is already of concern for maybe murdering their kid hiding something from them that apparently will set them off seems to be putting the kid at unneeded risk.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's why the social transitions behind the parents backs make absolutely zero sense. If they were actually worried for the child's safety they'd not push the social transition. Since the whole point of the social transition is that you are "out" to everyone, including other students. It's not private. Teachers just seem retarded here. What's to stop one of the other kids from inadvertently or advertently informing the kids parents about it?

[–]IMissPorn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Please don't invent new inaccurate titles when you post links to articles. Thanks.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How is the title inaccurate? It's almost exactly what the second paragraph in the article says.

[–]IMissPorn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Daily Mail's title was misleading, u/ClassroomPast6178's rewording unfortunately changes it to outright false. The important detail is that Childline didn't say those things, other users (not officials/staffers) on a forum they run did. It's certainly a legitimate thing to raise concerns about, but it's not the same thing as the charity giving children that advice directly.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What?

[–]FlyingKangaroo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yet another successor to UK’s pedo rings and paedophilia problem.