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[–]Anatolia 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (33 children)

and criticize it.

you never criticized any distinct points, you just said people like him are idiots looking for someone else to blame for their failures. (a pretty inflammatory thing to say honestly, do you really know anything about the people you are commenting to?)

I think you need to take a breather, or criticize specific points if you want a discussion. OR you just don't want any discussion. That's cool too!

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (32 children)

I called them conspiracy theorists looking for other people to blame for their failures. That is not "name calling". It's a criticism of the conspiracy theory. Do you care to actually take up the argument, or are you just going to keep trolling? Or do you just assume it isn't a conspiracy theory (even though it fits the exact definition)?

Edit: And since you clearly missed it, here is the central refutation of the conspiracy theory: "Blaming ideological positions on specific groups of people when, on the whole, they align more with geography and wealth to begin with. [...] All you have is a conspiracy theory on the basis that some Jews have opinions you don't like, and an opinion shared by plenty of other races with high income brackets."

[–]Anatolia 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I called them conspiracy theorists looking for other people to blame for their failures. That is not "name calling". It's a criticism of the conspiracy theory.

Calling people failures is not a criticism of conspiracy theory.

"Blaming ideological positions on specific groups of people when, on the whole, they align more with geography and wealth to begin with

Now you're getting somewhere. This is why you should probably research how New York got it's wealth (hint: it was slave trading and cotton) then when you read the scholarly sources regarding who were the majority owners and financiers of slave trade since the inception of the funding of Christopher Columbus. Now you are getting somewhere :)

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Calling people failures is not a criticism of conspiracy theory.

I said blaming for their failures, not that they are failures. There's a difference, try to pay attention.

Now you're getting somewhere. This is why you should probably research how New York got it's wealth (hint: it was slave trading and cotton) then when you read the scholarly sources regarding who were the majority owners and financiers of slave trade since the inception of the funding of Christopher Columbus. Now you are getting somewhere :)

And so did plenty of non-jews and other kinds of bankers or anyone in financing. The reason some Jews ended up in finance positions stems from the fact Catholics couldn't charge interest and Jews rarely had other occupations allowed to them. So what? You start with trolling and your very first point does not address my criticism, in fact falls in line exactly with it.

[–]Anatolia 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The reason some Jews ended up in finance positions stems from the fact Catholics couldn't charge interest and Jews rarely had other occupations allowed to them.

And they need to repent for their sins in the slave trade just as catholics need to repent for their sins of terrorizing the native people and destroying much of their heritage, forcing a fake white jesus religion upon them.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

...??? I don't believe you inherit deeds of your ancestors. Do you just not have an argument?

[–]Anatolia 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

In a world where latino people are giving power and money to evil organizations of the catholic church, and mainstream jewish ideology wants to erase the biblical origins of other people to give them "chosen" status while they run hip hop music as modern day slavery, israel as modern day apartheid, without even getting into the rothschilds and other jewish bankers comitting ursury with the world bank, IMF, it is a bit deeper than "inheriting the deeds of your ancestors"

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This is called moving the goalpost. You claimed they somehow need to "repent" for "sins" they didn't do, I don't believe the concept is coherent. Instead of defending that point, you've brought up more assertions. I will not play this game.

[–]Anatolia 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

imagine thinking everything exists in a vacuum and that past transgressions don't lead to present transgressions.

my point was that they are connected. and yes jews should repent for following the talmud, for slavery, etc. just as white people should repent for supporting american wars and genocide in many places. if we can't accept we have done negative things in the past, we can't understand our current transgressions.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I haven't done any of these things, nor could I have influenced them. Therefore, I am not responsible for the actions of my ancestors. "Responsible" implies responsibility, implying ability to have responsibility. You don't have any if you don't even exist at the time. If you have problems with things people are currently doing, the issue is what they're doing. Not what someone else sometime else did.

[–]Fitter_Happier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

conspiracy theory

You do realize that everything big that happens is the result of a conspiracy? Man walks on moon, that's the result of a conspiracy. People actually went into a smoke filled room and conspired to put a man on the moon. Then it happened. A giant pyramid arose in Egypt 5000 years ago. Well, that was the result of a conspiracy.

You fucking idiot, a "conspiracy theory" is merely one's assessment of HOW things came about.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

You don't know what the word "conspiracy" means. Let's cite the dictionary to help:

noun, plural con·spir·a·cies.

  1. the act of conspiring.

  2. an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot.

  3. a combination of persons for a secret, unlawful, or evil purpose: He joined the conspiracy to overthrow the government.

  4. Law. an agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime, fraud, or other wrongful act.

  5. any concurrence in action; combination in bringing about a given result.n evil, unlawful, treacherous, or

  6. surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot.

None of these definitions fit your use of the word "conspiracy", as it appears you actually meant "agreement" or "cooperation" of some kind. Rather, conspiring and conspiracy inherently imply nefarious, evil, unlawful, or other plans or plots against someone or something. In other words, blaming a race of people for such things means you have a theory of a conspiracy to explain some observations. A conspiracy theory.

[–]Fitter_Happier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

This is merely intent. If others think you're doing good then it's not a conspiracy, if they think you're doing bad, it's a conspiracy.

How dumb are you?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

...?? You believe in a conspiracy theory because you ascribe intent to a race of people that you consider in some sense evil toward you. Yes. Exactly my point. Is English not your first language?

[–]Fitter_Happier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

What are you referring to? Be specific. What "conspiracy theory" do you think I believe that isn't true?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Literally your own article. Even the title. "Jews plan to permanently silence the west". You blame the Jews for a given set of opinions and believe them to be nefarious, and have a theory that they're responsible. Hence, conspiracy theory.

[–]Fitter_Happier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Did you read the article? You can't just say "I won't believe the conclusion" and call that a refutation.

Yes, Jews (not all Jews but primarily Jews) are conspiring to subvert White countries, i.e. by flooding them with non-Whites and destroying their sense of self-preservation. That's just a fact. sorry.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

primarily Jews

[[citation needed]].

by flooding them with non-Whites and destroying their sense of self-preservation. That's just a fact. sorry.

Claiming it's true doesn't make it true. I challenged you to defend your beliefs. You've consistently failed to even make the attempt, and I refuted your conspiracy theory in the first place by pointing out plenty of other people share the ideological beliefs you ascribe to "primarily jews".