I don't mean to be disrespectful to your community, but I think if you asked 100 women to sleep with you, you wouldn't be celibate.

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[–]SMCAB 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

I am currently dating. I have a collective of 123 messages sent, and 4 replies in 4 apps in a 2 weeks. I'm in shape, have never had a problem dating, I'm successful, and I act like an adult in a relationship. I'm the fucking catch here. And those are the hard numbers.

You're right, it's a numbers game, that's why I sent this. I will date them, I wil screw them, but it takes time and patience for a dude in this world. Every girl I talk to in public looks at me like I'm eating a cat. But I don't do bars either.

Advice! Surround yourself with a genuine partner, so you don't end up 44 with two kids in an environment where even being a top choice you get little to nothing.

I read the National average is 3 to 4 percent return on replies, no matter who you are.

Edit: You know, I feel bad, I didn't even realize where I was, I just replied. Ill leave it up becasue I don't delete anything, but sorry for my unawareness.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Don't feel bad, that's a good response and you have I think a healthy mindset.

[–]SMCAB 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks, I just thought it might be irrelevant based on the sub? I don't know a lot about this community. I know it's a buzzword that gets thrown around and is rarely used correctly, that's about it.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

You know, I feel bad, I didn't even realize where I was, I just replied. Ill leave it up becasue I don't delete anything, but sorry for my unawareness.

I'm really glad you replied and left it up, I think it helps. I feel bad for the incels, I feel like they just need a bro to be their wingman and tell em the secret of women.

[–]SMCAB 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I don't understand this place? Do you know how many fairly attractive girls I see with with absolute chuds? I mean, enough to notice and say this, I see some that even make me comment in my head and get slightly mad! It happens almost daily.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think it's mostly a self-esteem issue and fear of rejection that leads to the incel ideology and that makes things worse since it repels women. Self fulfilling prophecy of failure. Although sometimes their standards can be too high too.

[–]SMCAB 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That makes alot of sense. What I'm saying is, I think those girls get put through the ringer by alpha chads for 10 or 15 years, then they just say fuck it and go lower league(looks wise) so that dynamic disappears. They control it now, which is what they want, and that dude is home every night, doing what he's told. And if you're an incel, you're in on that deal.

[–]AnimeRespecter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

yes and what causes us to have a elavated fear of rejection I wonder? I have shot my shot with women and been rejected countless times, so What could it be that makes us feel like we have no chance 🤔? Could it be that women have refused to treat us with the slightest semblance of dignity since we were prepubescent kids?

[–]Mazurro 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The secret of women - playing the flawed odds game of writing thousands of times as average guy (or subhuman in our case). Are we supposed to buy stuff for m'ladies in your take or what?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it's better when the m'ladies buy the guys things.

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Man, I really miss going to some trashy bar on ladies' night and trying to score trashy butterface chicks. Go to a bar now and it's like 50 Guatemalan / Iranian dudes clustered around one thot who's drinking on their tabs and playing on TikTok. Makes me want to vomit.

[–]SMCAB 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Hahahaha that's hilarious. Man, it sucks total ass, I hear ya, online is literally the only way to do this anymore, and it's fucking horrible. It's just a bunch of retards on both sides looking for dopamine hits and ego stroking while the entire time they are fucking their exes. It's a fucking shitshow massacre.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

See, here's the thing. Online dating is not your ticket out of inceldom. Go where the women are, work with them, socialise with them. Counting messages is a miserable existence and fuels resentment. Meeting women in real life is fun and exciting. Seriously, this idea that people should meet over messaging is depressing, it should be left for hookers and drug dealers.

[–]SMCAB 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's completely depressing, I've already made that clear. I banged last night though. Patience.

I disagree, and I say this as I know nothing about incledom, I'm making that clear. Attitude, every one of these dudes is toxic as fuck, the ones I talk to anyway, and I wholly understand their attitude, I completely understand it. For my money, the more time they spend talking the worse their chances get. Online, lie, hit ass, maybe find a pot of gold? What do I know?

What I do know is everyone I try to have a conversation with is too busy wallowing in their own shit to get it together.

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Here is a critical question for you: What are you going to do when someone disrespects you in an offline situation?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Walk away and get on with your life.

[–]Mazurro 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

123 messages sent, and 4 replies in 4 apps in a 2 weeks

I admire your cope levels.

[–]SMCAB 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It just is what it is, I take comfort in the fact I don't have a choice and can't change it. Life's about expectations. When you have none it raises your confidence and lowers your disappointment.

[–]Mazurro 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Life's about expectations

Almost my point with a little difference. Life is about hope. You might have no expectations whatsoever but you live with this hope that something with very little possibility will happen. This false hope was destroying me for years - once I lost it my anxiety disappeared. My confidence never got any better, but I don't feel sadness over something that cannot happen.

[–]SMCAB 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah I get that. I kind of meant like, if you have no expectations, it can garner a go for broke attitude, like just saying "fuck it". Not necessarily confidence, but yeah I get it.

Hope and faith aren't in my vocabulary. I used to be in ridiculously harmful negative thought patterns about this stuff. I used to see women as a bag of holes, nothing more, and I had good reason, the ones I knew and met were bags of holes, it's that simple. But, there are good women out there, they may be fewer and farther between than they would like to admit, and I believe they are, but they do exist. For me it was changing what I was attracted to. That helped a lot.

[–]Mazurro 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hope and faith aren't in my vocabulary. I used to be in ridiculously harmful negative thought patterns about this stuff. I used to see women as a bag of holes, nothing more, and I had good reason, the ones I knew and met were bags of holes, it's that simple. But, there are good women out there, they may be fewer and farther between than they would like to admit, and I believe they are, but they do exist. For me it was changing what I was attracted to. That helped a lot.

Then I reached all steps you mention, with addition of one, the last one. I found out that "those good women out there" are good only did Chads and they are exactly the same towards me. The behaviour of people isn't determined by their inner behaviour, rather by me and how I look.

Also, even if such women would exist (I don't believe it anyway) then they are taken.

[–]Mazurro 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

"I am currently LOOKING FOR A JOB. I have a collective of 123 CVs sent, and 4 WERE OPENED IN 4 COMPANIES in 2 weeks. I'm SMART, DID OWN PROJECTS, FINISHED DEGREE AND I REALLY WANT TO WORK. I'm the fucking catch here. And those are the hard numbers.

You're right, it's a numbers game, that's why I sent this. I will WORK THERE, I will GET PAID, but it takes time and patience for a dude in this world. Every HR ASSISTANT I talk to in AN INTERVIEW looks at me like I'm eating a cat. But I don't do LINKEDIN either.

Advice! Surround yourself with a GOOD WORK ENVIRONMENT so you don't end up WITH MINIMUM WAGE PHYSICAL WORK in an environment where even being a top choice you get little to nothing.

I read the National average is 3 to 4 percent READ CV, no matter who you are."

Sounds absurd? Exactly. Because dating is like applying for some top tier job, when in reality all you want is someone comparable just with a hole between legs.

[–]SMCAB 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

No it doesn't sound absurd, you hit the nail on the head. And an adult woman knows exactly what you just said is the truth. Accepting it makes it easier to deal with.

[–]Mazurro 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If it doesn't sound absurd to you, then you are coping on next level.

[–]SMCAB 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well, good luck. Wallow in more of your own shit and order backup fleshlights in case they go out of business. I tried.

[–]Mazurro 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

More shit isn't possible and I will buy fleshlight for sure

[–]Bigs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, that didn't sound absurd, that sounds about right if you want a good job. Or work for yourself.