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[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

"Uncle Sasha" is apparently quite popular.

Source?

The same incident where the defendant who defended himself in court was found not guilty.

Source?

Dutch Public Prosecution Service charged four people with murder in connection with the shooting down of the aircraft: three Russians, Igor Girkin, Sergey Dubinsky, and Oleg Pulatov, and one Ukrainian, Leonid Kharchenko.

The court handed down life sentences to three defendants, Igor Girkin, Sergey Dubinskiy and Leonid Kharchenko for the murder of 298 passengers and crew. A fourth defendant, Oleg Pulatov, was acquitted on grounds of insufficient involvement in the incident.

You're talking about Pulatov then?

Why are you ignoring the others, and are characterising him as "the" defendant?

Do believe a lot of Russian propaganda?

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

"Uncle Sasha" is apparently quite popular.

Source?

It is well established that early in his rule, Lukashenko was very popular. Of course he's gone through periods of reduced popularity, and there's a section of Belarussian society that really doesn't like him, but that's true everywhere. A majority of Americans currently disapprove of Joe Biden, so I guess he must be a dictator and his election victory illegitimate too.

Back to Lukashenko... like most authoritarian figures, his popularity tends to increase during times of uncertainty (like now). His popularity went up in 2010, and again in 2014.

Since then, I have not been able to find any English language sources you would deem credible (i.e. American propagandists) that talk about Lukashenko's popularity, only references to protests against him. Oh wait, sorry, that's the wrong president.

  • Protests against our Beloved Leader: riots and insurrection by traitors.
  • Protests against your Despotic Dictator: pro-democracy rallies for freedom and democracy.

A fourth defendant, Oleg Pulatov, was acquitted on grounds of insufficient involvement in the incident.

Let me get this straight. I said that the defendant who actually went to court and defended himself was acquitted. You state exactly the same thing, but ask me for a source for something you've just confirmed???

You know when I post replies to you, some words or phrases are in blue? If you click on the blue words, your browser will see the source. You might have to read past the first sentence.

Why are you ignoring the others, and are characterising him as "the" defendant?

The defendant who defended himself in court.

Wait... is it possible that you are unaware that the three convictions were in absentia? So the defendants were unable to defend themselves?

[–]ActuallyNot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I doubt those figures very much A majority of Americans currently disapprove of Joe Biden, so I guess he must be a dictator and his election victory illegitimate too.

Really?

You really don't understand why Lukashenko would be viewed as illegitimate, but Biden not?

Let's test your capacity for rational thought and knowledge of the topics of discussion.

Try to predict one of the arguments I'm going to use to refute that.

The defendant who defended himself in court.

Oh, for fuck's sake. You made it sound like there was some question over whether Russians were guilty.

Three people were found guilty in court.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You really don't understand why Lukashenko would be viewed as illegitimate, but Biden not?

There are millions of Americans who consider Biden is not a legitimate president, just as millions considered that Trump before him was not, and millions who thought Obama was not legitimate, and Bush Jr before him.

The difference is that there is nobody amplifying their voices in the same way that that America and NATO consistently amplify the voices of the opposition in any country that is not a vassal of the US state.

Of course I understand why Lukashenko is viewed as illegitimate. The US spends billions every year to destabilize countries like Belarus, undermine their governments, and convince media organisations both inside and outside to portray them as illegitimate, while the (real or supposed) illegitimacy of Biden is way outside of the range of acceptable narratives permitted by the DISC.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You made it sound like there was some question over whether Russians were guilty.

If you can't trust the Ukrainian security services and Ukraine's allies to investigate a possible Ukrainian war crime, one where the investigators expressed their opinion that Russia was guilty even before they begun the investigation, then who can you trust?