are you all comfortable with me being here?

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[–]VioletRemi 19 insightful - 5 fun19 insightful - 4 fun20 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Lesbian is homosexual female, so same sex attraction. Transwoman is opposite sex to female, so no transwoman can be lesbian just by definition of homosexuality. As simply as that.

We here not "believe in this", it is just what word means. You can't just randomly change meanings of words and "believe" that words mean something else. Word exist to make people communicate and explain things to each other, that is why words must mean the same thing for everyone. And not different things for everyone.

cis lesbian

What does this even mean? Because "non-cis" will mean something opposite to lesbian, so not lesbian. So "cis lesbian" makes no sense, just because otherwise it would not be a lesbian at all. It is like saying "wooden table from wood".

with me being there

Why so much centering on yourself, tho?

[–]SailorMoon2020 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I concur with Violet. Also how did you find this place because most of the peeps here have been kicked out of main stream lesbian places? Since you believe what you believe, you'll do fine in main stream online lesbian places. We're outcast and do not associate with LGBT culture, with some may be associating with LGB. If you're not an outcast, if you believe the beliefs of that of lgbt main stream culture, what is your motivation for wanting to come here? You'll be welcomed in other spaces....we won't.

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    [–]SailorMoon2020 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    It is suspicious since op says

    but if you guys are uncomfortable with that and want a space free of people with my beliefs then i can find somewhere else to go

    there are dozens of forums, websites, etc that believe Op's beliefs. Why choose the one place that differs from the current norm? =/

    [–]florasis 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Because his girldick only gets hard by imposing himself in place that are not for him...

    [–]idkathispoint[S] 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    i don't have any prior activity because i wanted to see if you guys were ok with me posting here first lol. i also didn't want to feel like i was "sneaking in" or anything

    [–]Climblikeabee 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    Some educational videos from the queen:

    https://youtu.be/qkcCzIc0j2s https://youtu.be/dQ35T3H7Arg

    Your post reads like a validation-seeking post and low-grade trolling. You could have had a seat and participated without bring trans into the conversation at all, since it is mostly irrelevant unless we are talking about female and lesbian erasure and the homophobic rhetoric we are being attacked with.

    I think you'd feel right at home in /r/actuallesbians, where all that nonsense reigns supreme.

    If you want ACTUAL lesbians, you found the right place, but I think you know this already.

    [–]idkathispoint[S] 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

    i'm getting a lot of hate for this post and i don't get why? i could have had a seat and participated without telling anyone my opinions, but that would feel disingenuous and sneaky, at least to me, since this seems to be a place where people define lesbianism as a bio woman only into bio women. i'm not harrassing anyone or calling them wrong, i was giving you all a chance to say that you're not into my positions and request that i leave :/

    [–]VioletRemi 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I do not see any hate in answers to this post. Like, at all (well, except one from TalerTest maybe).

    And questions are very logical as well.

    [–]SailorMoon2020 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Yep, you're a troll. Playing the victim when no perps are around. Let us not entertain this person. They are not geniuine. Report and move on. Something tells me this person is from another place and is trying to stir up drama for the sake of that other place. Y'all know what I mean.

    [–]Climblikeabee 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Facts.

    [–]Climblikeabee 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    People aren't "defining" lesbianism differently, it has one definition and it isn't up for interpretation.

    [–]yousaythosethings 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I believe my comment was the first and it was very reasonable and I clearly articulated the context for my question. Why couldn’t you give a straightforward response to it or any response at all? If you’re not a homosexual female, which based on your avoidance of my question, it sounds like you aren’t, then this space isn’t meant for you and there are plenty of other spaces out there for people like you. And if you aren’t than why did you come here knowing this was a place not meant for you when you have so many other options and we don’t?

    [–]yousaythosethings 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Question: You say you are a “lesbian“ but you believe that trans women can be “lesbians.” So are you a homosexual biological female attracted exclusively to other biological females?

    If yes, and you follow the rules, which is sounds like you otherwise agree to, then you would be welcome here. The rules say you can refer to yourself as “cis” but not others. And if you post here you should understand that when we say “lesbian,” here we mean “homosexual female.” And to participate meaningfully you should adopt that definition too and use other terminology if you intend to refer to a group other than homosexual females.

    I’m honestly sad that I have to keep saying “homosexual female” instead of “lesbian” when most people know that a lesbian is a homosexual female. But to advocate for ourselves and our rights and discuss our life experiences, we need to be able to define ourselves, which yes is inherently exclusive.

    [–][deleted] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    If you think that trans women can be lesbians but you could never be sexually interested in them then you are lying about seeing them as women.

    If you think trans women can be lesbians and you are into them then you are not a lesbian.

    So which one is it?

    Not sure why you respect men claiming they're lesbians and trying to force themselves on us but whatever. I personally don't care if you post here.

    [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

    Bait. 2/10

    [–]TalerTest 6 insightful - 7 fun6 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

    Well I'm not uncomfortable with you being here. I feel sorry for you, but that's irrelevant.

    [–]strictly 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    i'm a cis lesbian (i wouldn't call anyone else cis without permission, but i do use it for myself), so technically i guess i'm "allowed" to post here.

    Being "cis" means you have made your sex into a gender identity. Lesbians don't have to have gender identities to be allowed to post here, they just have to meet the defintion of lesbian (homosexual female).

    i do think that trans women can be lesbians, and i would respect their gender and orientation

    I think you should be allowed to post here if you are an homosexual female but if you are attracted to these males you are not homosexual/lesbian to begin with. Possibly you think these bihet males should count as "lesbians" while not being attracted to them. But if you consider them lesbians, why wouldn't you rather hang out on "actuallesbians" and discuss "lesbian" things with these bithet males?

    [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    we post here because we cannot participate in the lesbian subreddits. if you can still post on reddit, what has drawn you to this place?

    [–]Lessom 5 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

    No we wouldn’t be comfortable having a troll like you here.

    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Difference of opinion makes the world go round. If everyone saw things exactly the same life would be horribly boring. Most thing are up for debate as far as I’m concerned. The exception on that, in my opinion, would be sexual boundaries. No matter where you go you’ll find people who like to argue just for the sake of argument.

    [–]literallyjustvibing 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

    this is the stupidest shit i- did you think you did something here sis 💀

    [–]piylot 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    I personally don't mind people with opinions similar to yours participating in these forums as long as they're not here to preach their views.

    I do suggest they respect that spaces like this can only exist by being paved by people who will be called hateful, and if they appreciate this space existing it's not fair for them to believe that they should be exempt from the same criticism directed towards the "gender critical" members.