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[–]NutterButterFlutterStill waving into the void[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

This media source is reporting on a woman who met up with a man who killed her. The woman was allegedly trans (FTM), and we do not know about the alleged perpetrator.

While that sounds like it has literally nothing to do with us, technically, it can be shared because it's *The Advocate* virtue signaling for T. The Advocate was a primarily LGB publication in the past. There is nothing to suggest either the victim or perpetrator are victims of hate crimes for being LGB, so at this point, it's colonization of our resources and erasure.

I don't know if that was the intention of the post since the majority of users don't add flair to demonstrate their reason for sharing. Having been around a while, I guess it probably wasn't. Our mod team is willing to look past the individual though, so we all can see and understand the cause-and-effect.

PS: if you locate original journalistic sources or more details for the information shared here, please do let us know. TTTT-media is not reliable, it's just demonstrative.

[–]spanishprofanity 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

cant wait to hear about how this is somehow the terfses fault for misgendering

[–]JoshuaNumbersHomo Sap 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The dead have no gender, just ashes.

This sucks. Has Matthew Shepherd vibes. The girlfriend stuck with him through it, apparently. I wonder if she's a killer or another victim. An accomplice or an appliance for his fuel.

[–]Lovebirds_fury 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The kind of men who are ok dating trans are creeps or delusional. It seems she met a creep

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It’s tragic and it won’t be the last time thanks to so many young girls being sucked into the gender cult.

[–]spanishprofanity 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

think this one might have just been a psychopath. many such cases amongst heterosexual men

[–]JulienMayfair 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I'm not really sure why this article is posted here. A trans man met a man online, and he turned out to be a murderer. Who knows? Maybe it wasn't his first murder. It could happen to anyone getting into a car with someone they don't really know.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think it's because girls and women often (perhaps even usually) go the trans route in an attempt to escape misogyny: they think that not "identifying" as female means that they won't be treated-- and, especially, mistreated-- as female. So they're less likely to exercise the sort of caution that women normally do where male strangers are concerned. Sure, a man could have suffered the same fate in this situation... but for a woman? The risk is much greater. Yet transgenderism assures them otherwise. Because they're MEN now! That's exactly the kind of pernicious lie that gender-woo specializes in. And ruins lives with. Whether by destroying people's hard-won rights, their bodies, their sexuality, their connection to who they really are... or even getting them killed. It's just a variation on an all-too-familiar theme. That this denial of reality comes at a high price.

[–]JulienMayfair 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

All your points are valid in the abstract, but we really don't know for sure that that's what happened here. We have no idea what transpired between the victim and the killer. We don't know their specific motivations. I just don't like the idea of jumping to conclusions without knowing for sure or of co-opting someone's murder to make a point.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Fair enough. And I don't suppose we ever necessarily will know, at least if we have to depend on the likes of The Advocate (still can't believe that this is the world we're living in, where I'd ever be typing those words...), should the facts that eventually emerge be deemed to make trans look bad.

Julien, do sometimes find yourself feeling as though you're living in some dystopian novel, too? :(

[–]JulienMayfair 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Journalism is not in a good place these days, to put it mildly, so you're going to get a lot of low-effort reporting and clickbait. Some facts might emerge in the trial of the killer, especially if his girlfriend agrees to testify against him in exchange for leniency. Also, any digital communication between the killer and the victim might come to light in court. You just have to wait.

My classic example of this is the Duke Lacrosse case back in 2006. A black woman accused white athletes of sexual assault, and everyone piled on with the perceived underdog against the privileged athletes. But then, as the case progressed, it all fell apart. It turned out the accuser had lied, and, even more, the district attorney prosecuting the case was eventually himself charged with criminal misconduct for attempting to suppress evidence and disbarred. The accuser later went on to kill her boyfriend.

Whenever I feel like jumping to a conclusion on minimal evidence because it fits some narrative, I take a step back and remind myself not to get ahead of the facts.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Because a woman claiming to be a gay man went looking for a hookup and ended up dead, with all the consequences and implications of a “gay murder” and “gay hate crime” that will result.

[–]JulienMayfair 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I looked it up in other news outlets, and they're all saying that it does not appear to have been a hate crime. In fact, most mainstream new sources are reporting that a 'woman' was murdered. A couple mention that she was in the process of transitioning.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

We need to talk more about how casual transactivism are about encouraging young trans people to cut off their families. I suspect her family loved her and didn't initiate the estrangement. People who are led to believe everyone hates them and their family is 'unsafe' are made vulnerable to predators like this.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Just do a search for Jeffrey Marsh on Twitter and watch a terrifying repulsive and mentally unwell predator doing exactly that like the creepiest cartoon villain you ever dreamed of.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I'm aware of him and his teaching kids to go 'no-contact'. In what other context would he be tolerated? All these insane predatorial men elevated to positions of power and influence and shielded from scrutiny by this insane religion.

[–]automoderatorHuman-Exclusionary Radical Overlord[M] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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