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[–]Chocolatepudding 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's really sad. Full of incel logic; incomplete, incorrect and just sad

[–]reluctant_commenter 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Incredible article. Saw this and was gonna post it, glad someone else already thought to. I'm also surprised and delighted that this got published in WaPo! Are we finally getting a little more mainstream??

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Seeing this was both uplifting and harrowing at the same time. Corinna's story is important and relatable and representative of what so many of us are concerned about. Corinna's perspective is balanced, introspective, and well articulated. This is what people need to hear if there's going to be a changing tide that's not of a conservative homophobic reactionary nature. Certainly a good sign to see this in the WaPo.

When I was 19, I had surgery for sex reassignment, or what is now called gender affirmation surgery. The callow young man who was obsessed with transitioning to womanhood could not have imagined reaching middle age. But now I’m closer to 50, keeping a watchful eye on my 401(k), and dieting and exercising in the hope that I’ll have a healthy retirement. In terms of my priorities and interests today, that younger incarnation of myself might as well have been a different person — yet that was the person who committed me to a lifetime set apart from my peers.

YES! As a former naive teenager, I am so glad that I am not now bound by anything I did at that age. The amount of experience and growing into my body I've done since then cannot be underscored. It feels more like a past life than my own past. The trans movement of today is very myopically youth-centered. The overwhelming desire appears to become the anime teen version of the opposite sex.

I once believed that I would be more successful finding love as a woman than as a man

A very common thought for a gay person to have

but in truth, few straight men are interested in having a physical relationship with a person who was born the same sex as them.

Few "straight" men but no straight men. Reality and identities clashing again. A man who wants to have a relationship with a biological male but also cling to the idea that he is "straight" is going to be someone dealing with a lot of cognitive dissonance and reality denial. That's not a healthy relationship dynamic. Just like a relationship where one partner has to pretend the other is not their natal sex.

In high school, when I experienced crushes on my male classmates, I believed that the only way those feelings could be requited was if I altered my body.

Again, not an unusual feeling for a gay person to have.

It turned out that several of those crushes were also gay. If I had confessed my interest, what might have developed?

This is heart-breaking and I feel it deeply as someone who came out late. I've had a lot of what ifs that I try not to get too caught up in because I radically accept the decisions I made and understand why I made them, but holy moly am I glad I didn't do anything irreversible to prevent myself from getting on my path in the first place and giving myself a chance at happiness down the line. I have been hearing this idea from more and more old school transsexuals lately. Some of them in middle age have realized they could accept themselves as gay but that they are so deep into their transition that detransitioning seems more impractical.

What was I seeking for my sacrifice? A feeling of wholeness and perfection. I was still a virgin when I went in for surgery. I mistakenly believed that this made my choice more serious and authentic. I chose an irreversible change before I’d even begun to understand my sexuality.

Again, i relate to this. I'm so glad I didn't do anything irreversible and I don't want other LGB people (and others) to be in this position either. Abigail Shrier covered in Irreversible Damage how common it is for the girls and young women with ROGD to have never even kissed anyone.

The surgeon deemed my operation a good outcome, but intercourse never became pleasurable. When I tell friends, they’re saddened by the loss, but it’s abstract to me — I cannot grieve the absence of a thing I’ve never had.

Devastating and makes me think of Jazz Jennings.

[–]JulienMayfair 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, this tracks with what two trans friends of mine told me as they got older. It was something that seemed to make sense to them as a solution to their psychological issues at the time, but, in the end, it wasn't. One committed suicide. The other is resigned, as this author is, to being alone and suffers from chronic medical problems from SRS.

[–]JulienMayfair 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Paywalled.

[–]CleverFoolOfEarth 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Here's the archive, if that helps.: https://archive.ph/9bO48

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks!

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The comments are now closed but that's after 3.6K comments. It's a mixed bag, but the overall slant is that "this is just one person's story" and "Transition is so different now! There are so many more protections in place!" But that's just easily disprovable nonsense that will come out over time. People can't look away from a gory trainwreck and when the lawsuits start, it's going to be a runaway train.

Anyone who stops to think will realize that the thrust of trans advocacy has been removing the supposedly awful "gatekeeping" of the past, and not just allow medical transition on demand, but require medical professionals to provide it. I don't see people saying that they support medical transition but that procedures must be in place to make sure that gay people are not transitioning out of homophobia, and I think that's telling of their mindset. They forgot that they're supposed to pretend that they care about gay people. I get the sense that the majority of them are the people who are personally heavily invested in gender identity ideology, at least for the time being. Not sure if WaPo heavily deletes comments like the NYT, but wouldn't be surprised.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The comments are now closed but that's after 3.6K comments. It's a mixed bag, but the overall slant is that "this is just one person's story" and "Transition is so different now! There are so many more protections in place!" But that's just easily disprovable nonsense that will come out over time. People can't look away from a gory trainwreck and when the lawsuits start, it's going to be a runaway train.

Yeah, I don't like the dark path this is leading down. Extremely disaffected people like that can self-harm, and they can also turn violent toward others. This gender validation machine(physical, mental, and social) that is built up now is so short sighted in light of that.

Anyone who stops to think will realize that the thrust of trans advocacy has been removing the supposedly awful "gatekeeping" of the past, and not just allow medical transition on demand, but require medical professionals to provide it. I don't see people saying that they support medical transition but that procedures must be in place to make sure that gay people are not transitioning out of homophobia, and I think that's telling of their mindset. They forgot that they're supposed to pretend that they care about gay people. I get the sense that the majority of them are the people who are personally heavily invested in gender identity ideology, at least for the time being. Not sure if WaPo heavily deletes comments like the NYT, but wouldn't be surprised.

Dedicated supporters who don't notice the profiteering undercurrents of contemporary trans activism are probably overly focused on the false analogy between trans rights and gay rights that have been exploited time and again throughout this saga. Because the comparison serves to make them feel like bloody heroes in their own dramatic narrative between Good and Evil.

Maybe it's because they never gave trans-ideology much deep thought. Affirming someone's preferred view of themselves(and enlisting professionals to do it too) and adapting the medical system to transition more individuals is relatively easy. Getting to the root of why people trans and solving that problem is much harder stretch. Because it can upend much of what society is comfortably built on.

I think a lot of these people are rather "religiously" inclined, too(though I'm sure they'd hate to think of themselves as anything other than purely secular). Whenever some new age ideology like this comes along with the fervent power of an organized religion that'll give their lives some purpose and meaning and they'll soak it right up(especially if they are particularly lacking in their own character development and personal accomplishments). Reactionary anti-religion without any deep thought is just as much a psychological straw house as religion without any deep thought. But I digress.

[–]automoderatorHuman-Exclusionary Radical Overlord[M] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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