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[–][deleted] 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Asexuality can very much be a medical condition. The first step for someone who thinks they are asexual should be to go to the doctor. Anyone around them should encourage them to go to the doctor. This is not conversion therapy, this is important medical advise.

89% had avoided being open about their sexual orientation

The people who need to know about you being asexual: 1. Your doctor 2. Any potential romantic partners if you're the "I'm asexual but still date people" kind of asexual.

That's it, that's the whole list.

It's also not covered in the UK Equality Act 2010.

Ok, what discrimination do asexual people face that would require them to be written into the law? How would an employer be able to identify and discriminate against an asexual employee for example?

[–]INeedSomeTimeAsexual Ally 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Literally no discrimination at all if you're asexual.

[–]fuck_reddit 14 insightful - 5 fun14 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

It is very discriminatory that no one cares about asexuality! /s

[–]reluctant_commenter 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Just drop the LGB from LGBTQ+. Come on. Do it. TQAP++ would be a more accurate acronym. This organization is campaigning AGAINST a gay conversion therapy ban and championing asexuality. They're just social conservatives in a costume. Could it be any more obvious?

[–]INeedSomeTimeAsexual Ally 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oooh I see how they support asexuality but are against banning conversion therapy. For Christians the perfect gay person is an asexual one - who restrains themselves from their "sinful urges".

[–]julesburm1891 11 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

One. That’s the number of scenarios I want to see where asexual people face legal discrimination.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

89% had avoided being open about their sexual orientation.

Even assuming these are people who are actually asexual and experience no sexual or romantic desire, in what scenario would someone need to be "open" about this? When you're LGB, being open about it generally involves holding hands in public, attending events with your partner, and saying things like "my wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend" when telling a story while clearly being a member of the same sex. I don't really walk around telling people I'm a lesbian. I can understand telling your family "I've never been attracted to anyone and have no interest in having a partner and am perfectly happy with that." But why would you need to tell your coworkers that? Your boss? Your classmates? Your teachers? The mentality that there is something for such individuals to be "open" about comes from people who think we should be wearing all of our labels on rainbow and flag badges for the world to see. That's just wanting to form some sort of sociopolitical mafia. Or, you know, a cult.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Even assuming these are people who are actually asexual and experience no sexual or romantic desire,

I would say that there definitely are people who experience no sexual or romantic desire. However, I very, very strongly suspect that there is a medical or psychological reason for that lack of desire. If being 'asexual' bothers someone they should first get their hormone levels checked with their doctor, check for other physical causes, check it's not a side effect of log term medication. And if that doesn't identify a physical issue then, alone or with a counsellor of some kind, examine any psychological causes that may be preventing them from feeling sexual desire.

I would say there are some social issues caused by that lack of desire. I have a relative who I used to suspect was asexual back when I thought that was a real thing. And being utterly, permanently single is a bit 'othering.' People tend to comment on it, make jokes that can be hurtful or kind of conspicuously try to overcompensate for the things they think are lacking in your life, like make you a godparent to their child, forcefully involve you in extended family life in a way that is definitely a bit patronising. It's not unlike how an unhappily divorced person can be treated or a couple who want but can't have children. But it's not something that needs legal protections or acknowledgement with a special flag.

[–]szalinskikidproblematic androphile 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What exactly is it that asexual people want or need that is currently not provided by society, and that is compatible with the needs of homosexual people in order to justify lumping us all together? What rights do they lack? Same sex attracted people want spaces to their own: little "homo-normative" parallel universes in the form of bars, dating apps/sites, forums and real world meeting places. We LGBs want sexual freedom. Again, what do asexuals want? A "sexless" space? I mean, they share this need with another demographic... they are called "children". Admittedly, we could do more to protect children from early sexualization and creepy adults. But the point is, if you're asexual, you're in no way discriminated against, nor do you have special needs that aren't already satisfied or considered by the majority. Go form platonic relationships with other adults. If you can't do that, the problem isn't your non-sexuality.

[–]WildwoodFlower 7 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

If you're asexual, all you need to do is hang out with some senior citizens. Most of them are done with that aspect of life.

[–]CancelPowerSuper Bi Male 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is absolutely ridiculous. Did anybody here see a boy who got disowned for not having sex?

[–]JoeyJoeJoe 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Scrambling for relevance and new sources of revenue..... No wonder they got on board the trans train so enthusiastically. What a sad turn of events for a once valued organisation. Shut it down.

[–]TiredTrendersSuper-gay 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why do they call it a "legitimate sexual orientation" when the whole premise of the term is a complete absence of interest or desire to have sex? I want to see Stonewall's average BAC now.

[–]automoderatorHuman-Exclusionary Radical Overlord[M] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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