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[–]TumbleweedFireflies🍷 your ol' drunk mod[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

Whoever reported this ... we can kinda squint and see what you were saying in your report, but you're gonna need to explain your view to mods if you want us to remove this.

Here's how you can reach mods for further explanation: https://saidit.net/message/compose?to=/s/LGBDropTheT

[–]GreykittymommaMagical lady 💜 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know more than the average person about cults and it is scary how cult-like TRA are.

[–]VenusEnvy 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I was in a GSA years ago and gender crap was never mentioned. It was all about trying to prevent bullying of kids who were not, or were not perceived to be, straight. I was only in tha club for like 3 months and then went to a school that didn't have one.

Anyway apparently now "GSA" doesn't stand for "Gay-Straight Alliance", but for something else like "Gender/Sexuality A-something" so that's a shame. The club I was in did some actually valuable work. Oh well.

[–]RippoffOfLoveSStraight | Overuses quotation marks 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If anyone wants to learn more about cults, I recommend researching the BITE model and the works of its author Dr Steven Hassan.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I never received the lovebombing or sense of community because I came out as gay later in life during Generation Q and everywhere I went for resources and support I was met with some really sketchy gender nonsense that I found immediately disorienting and just off. I was old enough and had lived enough life to notice something was awry and self-supporting enough that I didn't need them like a young person would just to get on their own two feet.

Still, my understanding is that the GSAs of yore are way different now than the fledgling ones in my day, which I believe were actually about support. I believe what exists today aren't even "GSAs," so I would prefer this chart use different terminology. I understand why vulnerable LGB people who have been cast out would be motivated to recast their sexual orientation as a badge of honor as an initial coping mechanism, but for there to ever be peace or normalcy, the only answer is for sexual orientation to be seen as neutral. When it comes to gender identity, well, they need to first define that in some meaningful way for there to be any appropriate way to provide support there.

[–]reluctant_commenter 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I understand why vulnerable LGB people who have been cast out would be motivated to recast their sexual orientation as a badge of honor as an initial coping mechanism, but for there to ever be peace or normalcy, the only answer is for sexual orientation to be seen as neutral.

Completely agree. I'd only add... I think there's a big distinction to be made between telling LGB kids, "You have value as a human being, exactly as you are, existing with this immutable characteristic" and "Your value as a human being comes from this immutable characteristic that you have." The latter is breeding grounds for narcissism, IMO. I never fell into the second line of thinking and I question whether it is beneficial even in the slightest. People get mad sometimes when you make this sort of distinction, saying that it's splitting hairs, but I don't think that it is.

[–]sneeuweekhoorn 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The love bombing for being LGB turns into hate bombing the instant you have sexual boundaries and a definition of your sexual orientation that matches reality rather than the delusions of straight people.

I hate that we're constantly dragged into the lgbTQ++++ shit when we're more often than not the primary targets of their hatred and aggression.