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[–]TeaSpill 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

I'm about to tell you something extremely brave and controversial, that is probably going to upset everyone here:

It's not up to you to decide what pronouns someone uses. If you don't like them, don't refer to them. Someone telling you what pronouns they use is them setting a boundary with you, and if you don't want to respect someone else's boundaries, don't interact with them. This has nothing to do with "Queer theory" and everything to do with basic social interaction and respecting boundaries others set.

[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What are you talking about ?

The probelm is that they impose their ideology on everyone else. And no, it's not their boundaries when they ask of you to change your world view to fit their ideas that you have every right to find deeply lame. That's not about "just pronouns" anymore, have you been sleeping the past few years ? You don't know the weight behind the question "what are you pronouns" ? It isn't about courtesy, it's a social test, and it's asking of you what are you "ID" with, wich imply that you are interested in their game or respectful of it. The worst part is that I think most of people here were kind enough to play along with trans bs until TRAs/TQ+ took it way too far. There is nothing brave in what you've just said, that's the discourse you can find everywhere and that got this very sub banned.

[–]hufflepuff-poet 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This has nothing to do with "Queer theory" and everything to do with basic social interaction and respecting boundaries others set.

So am I a disrespectful bigot if I don't bow my head in prayer if the person I'm eating lunch with bows their head and prays? Even though I don't believe in their (or any) gods? I don't believe in gender, but I'm expected to say a pronoun prayer whenever a gender believer bows their head and prays-- "I use xe/xer/xem, what are your pronouns?"--and if I refuse, I risk social ostracization, up to job loss depending on the situation. That's not respect, that's submission.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Pronouns are meant to Identify one's Sex. Unlike names, you shouldn't get to Choose your own Pronouns. Other people shouldn't get to Choose it either. Biology- in the end, already makes the Choice for us; And we should Respect the Real physical boundaries set by it. ♂️|♀️