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[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They are not liberal. Israel is right-wing as fuck. They are literally an alt-right ethnostate that practices apartheid.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, no argument there; but that's why I made the distinction about being in the west. Israel is a very different culture. Religious fanatics (Zionists and the ultra-Orthodox) are a powerful force there, along with Jewish Russians who, while atheist, escaped the USSR and are hella right-wing as a result.

Basically, Jewish culture in the west is largely the result of Reform Judaism (which facilitated assimilation into Gentile society); Israel is a return to pre-Reform Judaism, with a heavy dose of 19th century nationalism (facilitating the opposite: as you observed, an ethnostate).