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[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Idk how you all can tell, they look male to me. But there aren't and that's always gonna be an issue. Knowing they have the other genitalia is the turn off. And these people finding it problematic to reduce someone to genitals are also the ones who say uterus havers and menstruaters and birthing people.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Idk how you all can tell, they look male to me.

Practice, my friend.

You need to know where and how to look, then it becomes easy to clock them.

[–]boypower 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I would have to agree. Some of them do read as male from this one picture, and admitting that doesn't really prove anything except with that money, surgery, dedication to hormones and the right genes, even as a woman, you can read as male. But regardless of that, they are still women, putting on a morbid costume. They lack male biology and especially male genitalia. And even beyond that, their '' male '' experience as women who might read as men isn't at all the same as the experience of maleness that actual males have gone through their whole lives: from gender stereotypes and gender roles to male socialization, other cultural and individual factors that affect how men experience their sex and maleness, and puberty and growing up as men. Add to this male homosexuality, and you have so much that no straight women pretending to be a gay man can fully comprehend, understand or emulate, albeit they might try. All of this is part of the attraction to the same sex (to me), to fully recognize someone of the same sex and to be able to understand and even relate to their experience as a person of the same sex that they are. Male biology and the experience (no matter how individualistic the experience might be) growing up as a biological male are both important.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree with all this. At the end of the day you have a person who is female, biologically and mentally. Add. To that it’s someone with severe body issues, why would I want to look for that in a mate?

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A still photo can obscure a lot of the ways we perceive sex, you're not seeing the way these people move, for instance, or hearing their voice.