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[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 23 insightful - 3 fun23 insightful - 2 fun24 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

I've said this many times, but in the conservative Christian environment I grew up in "asexuality" was encouraged and rewarded.

This is being caused by liberal parents harassing their kids because they aren't sexually maturing fast enough. They think something's wrong with their kid if they aren't having sex by Junior year. I do think there is an aspect of homophobia to that as well, if your child is 17 and not having sex they must be gay. So obviously push them into straight sex as hard as you can or force them to come out. Like Eddie Monsoon telling Saffy to come out as a lesbian "so I don't have to keep explaining you to my friends."

I think all of those stats about anxiety and "tension at home" are likely accurate. Asexuality is not an orientation though.

[–]Shales123 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Asexuality is not an orientation though.

I do know two women who've told me that they've never experienced sexual attraction. They're not TQ+ attention seeking weirdos, it's just how they're wired

[–]orangina5 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

asexuality is not a biological thing though. not everything needs a biological thing. everyone is trying to shove their useless, made up garbage into the "born this way" essentialism that we legitimized. if you're an "asexual homosexual" or "asexual heterosexual" then thats not a sexual orientation since it just describes your sexual orientation. and the women you know are absolutely 100% lying to you. they have much infighting and many factions. that's why they call it a "spectrum". There isnt a single true "asexual". theyre "asexual" but have thought about men..that makes them straight. or gay. they then seperate into asexuals who infight and attack because they're nymphomaniacs and cant stop having sex but dont like romance or dating. then there are the ones who have no sexual attraction but love dating and romance and it divides into 900 other categories.

again, we simply dont care. they have nothing to do with us and theyre not a sexual orientation. it's like calling "off" a television channel or bald a type of hairstyle. it's not biological and good for them. there are maybe 90000 different types of descriptors of sexuality similar to asexuality. "demi sexuality" or "sapio sexual" is closer to them than having that precious, precious, precious, precious, precious access to the label "sexual orientation". That category is worth more than gold to them hence why they get so psychotic and homophobic when they end up crashing into a wall of logic that wont let them pass.

[–]Shales123 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Lmao, stop making assumptions. I know both of these women really well, one of them is my sister, neither of them are homophobic or believe in queer theory, in fact I vent to them often about the TQ+ and they're fully supportive. Theyre just women who don't experience sexual attraction, and I don't agree that they deserve to be lumped in with queer weirdos

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Don't listen to him. He's a complete moron. Asexuality is a biological thing but it's not an orientation, it's a lack of sexuality. It can be caused by biological factors, and a majority of these (at least these days) can be caused by medication that lowers libido, such as antidepressants and antianxiety medication.

[–]orangina5 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Thats why every single gay and lesbian i know used to identify as asexual before moving on to bi and then finally gay. HMMM, almost like that mental trauma of internalized homophobia plays a large role in our damage and it's not pills. By the way you're being "ace-a-phobic" by saying it's some sort of damage. And her "pure" sister notices the sweat dripping from a man's abs. How very "asexual" of her.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You were the one who mentioned any damage. I just said that those specific medications, which are used by everyone, not just LGB, can cause a loss of libido, ergo people thinking they're asexual. They're not damaged in any way.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Anything (including diet) that bumps up your serotonin enough (btw, don't play chemistry set with your serotonin; see serotonin syndrome) can tank your libido. I've experienced this and never liked it. Fortunately diet is easy to modify. But yeah, at those times, I would have absolutely no interest whatsoever. So I feel for people who take SSRIs, etc. I see what they mean and it blows. Or...not....

[–]orangina5 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

little kids, teenagers identify as asexual. and to them, it's seen as a biological identity (which it isnt). they see themselves just like us. they see themselves as a sexual orientation so the people you're throwing yourself to in defence of their "identity" would be greatly offended that drugs can cause asexuality. it would be like saying homosexuality could be "caused" by drugs and we're all tired of having to deal with people like you who pretend you were born yesterday and dont understand the deep inferences you've made through your comments. "you were the one who mentioned damage"...no, you did, through inference. i mentioned their infighting. whatever happened to that "pyramid of debate"? At least i dragged it down to insult. It seems you just dragged it down with your...limitations.

[–]orangina5 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

i see you havent met the "asexual" community. First thing they do when you tell them it's not a sexual orientation is go on a homophobic rampage. How did you misinterpret what i said to mean that asexuality itself is inherently homophobic rather than the overwhelming majority of their community? They do experience attraction and yes, theyre lying. What exactly do you think the "spectrum" means? It means there are multiple ways there are attracted to people but have hang ups about it. These people have so many factions and so much infighting over who's "legitimate" and "valid" and "gatekeeping". There are nymphomaniac women calling other "asexuals" bitches because theyre not "validating" her asexuality since she sleeps with men but has no romantic attraction to them. Your sister checks out men. Asexuality is not a thing. Your sister sees the sweat drip from someone's abs. Asexuality is not a thing and never has been. But i do see serious, massive trauma with lesbians and gays where their internalized homophobia is so strong that they initially identify as asexuals....like me. and then come out as bi and then finally gay. That's our community's understanding of asexuality.