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[–]KingDickThe2nd 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I really do not understand the obsession with Stonewall, a bunch of ridiculous stereotypical people in the US did not provide me any rights.

If anything Stonewall and the likes, simply promoted ridiculous and stupid stereotypes that are still believed as 100% true today.

[–]reluctant_commenter 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Reddit is very US-centric and the TQ movement is as well, thus, Stonewall must be the supreme event that brought the shining lights of gay rights to all the world. Which is why homosexuality is still illegal in like 90 countries.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah[S] 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The mythos of Stonewall has travelled way beyond the US though. It was the inspiration for Sydney's march that was attacked by cops and became the G&L Mardi Gras of today. It obviously inspired the name of the UK organisation that has gone on to betray LGB people. It's the source of the name of Berlin's Christopher Street parade etc. And there is a good reason why it's become to renowned: because the people at the bar fought back instead of taking it as they always had in the past, no minor feat in those scary days. The problem is that it's treated as the source of all our hard won rights and all thanks to two imaginary transwomen of colour, completely ignoring all the efforts of people before, after and everywhere else in the world.

[–]reluctant_commenter 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for elaborating, I appreciate the context.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It’s because it gives them an opportunity to pretend the gay rights movement was founded by “queer” types. The clientele of the Stonewall Inn was less buttoned up than other gay bars. Yes they are fabricating a metric fuck ton on top of that but they want to pretend organizations like the Mattachine Society, Daughters of Bilitis, and their non-U.S. equivalents didn’t exist. When the “queer” obsessive types have made zero material gains for same sex rights anywhere.

TQ are also obsessed with race in a similarly neurotic and racist way because all minorities of any kind have the same interests, don’t you know? And when push comes to shove, you will get stripped of your minority status and called an oppressor without any context or support, as is convenient for them.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Stonewall was a singular event that a sympathetic alternative press in NYC could latch on to and mythologize. Pride parades kind of filled the same function for a long time. Most major events in gay history are like that in the U. S.