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[–][deleted] 34 insightful - 5 fun34 insightful - 4 fun35 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

why are they so stupid? :'(

[–]insta 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You assume too much. These people are just liars.

[–]CuntWorshiperWomenholic full time | vagina fetishist part-time 23 insightful - 13 fun23 insightful - 12 fun24 insightful - 13 fun -  (1 child)

My ass. Shut up Chicken Little.

[–]distortedlindsLady Muse 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

chicken little lmao stealing that

[–]deliciousdogfoodmy name isnt a puppyplay reference i swear 27 insightful - 5 fun27 insightful - 4 fun28 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

I can guarantee you it hasn't.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 23 insightful - 3 fun23 insightful - 2 fun24 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

archive link (might be easier to view): https://archive.is/v0xji

I know stuff off of Tumblr might seem like too much of a low-hanging fruit. But, I ran across this and wanted to share it because posts like this were my first introduction to the "LGBTQ+" community. I remember feeling really confused by all the different "historical" facts I saw being claimed about the LGB community. This is just one example of the transgender community attempting to rewrite history.

[–]el-sol-duerme 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I cannot fathom why they threaten with statements like, "To claim otherwise is ahistorical." This person is not a valid source, possibly spreading misinformation, and no one can question it. It feels dismissive and authoritarian. As though no one is allowed to open a healthy debate.

[–]winterwillow 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Finally, “dyke” entered the mainstream as the first national Dyke March took place in Washington, D.C. in 1993. Held without a permit, it was organized by the Lesbian Avengers, a trans-inclusive group of radical women who loved women. They took part in direct actions around the country for decades. Many of the members did not identify as lesbians but instead as transgender, bisexual, or pansexual among other identities.

I did some looking into this Lesbian Avengers group out of curiosity. There's nothing on their website or original handbook or manifest from 1994 to suggest they were 'trans-inclusive' as is demanded today. To have one or two transexuals join and politely use the right pronouns and let them tag along, wouldn't cut it today where you're supposed to center trans people and deny biology to make them feel 'safe'. Or that these women would call themselves anything but lesbians, though some might have been bi or straight even. They don't even mention bisexuality, to think they'd call themselves pan is pure fiction.

I did find this article from 2008 (https://www.thesunmagazine.org/issues/395/gender-vertigo) on what it was like in the Lesbian Avengers in San Francisco in late 90's early 00's. The author would probably be called a terf today lol. I think it describes pretty well what happened to these groups, they started as a way of having a community away from gay men, was very inclusive and encouraging of women calling themselves lesbians, 'We recruit!' was a tagline. Then when lgb people got more accepted and gender ideology gained more traction, lesbians in the group came out as trans men and trans women were included.

And of course as the Lesbian Avengers kept people who didn't see themselves as lesbians and let in people who weren't lesbians, the group was abandoned by the women who were. There's a passage in the article where one of the newly included trans women shows off the pierced nipples of his estrogen boobs, and I feel nauseous just thinking about how much 'gender euphoria' this (probably) agp male got out if doing that to lesbians like he was one of them.

It's funny in a way, because these 'trans dykes' of course know very well that they need cis lesbians no matter how much they talk shit about us and try to forcefully educate us on our own history so we'll be more inclusive. A room with twenty of these guys does not a lesbian community make, to themselves or lesbians or any onlooker, then they can call themselves dykes how much they want.

Sorry for hijacking your post, just thought the actual history was interesting.

[–]zephyranthes 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The word "dyke" has historically been applied to "promiscuous" heterosexual women. Dyke, dike, ditch, female sexual organ.

Also, even among LGBTWTF+ Tumblr, Eli Erlick (a pedophile rapist preying on brown girls) is uniquely vile.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh really? Do we have any receipts? I had no idea.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 11 insightful - 10 fun11 insightful - 9 fun12 insightful - 10 fun -  (0 children)

Dyke used to mean a well dressed man? Does that mean I can call myself a dyke after a visit to the tailor?

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is pissing me off. Pure stupidity.

[–]Franklintheturtle 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

oh wow a man in a suit. such gender bending