DiscussionBig corporate™ says: "Trans rights!"

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But now seriously, what's the worst "LGBTQIA2S+++ support" sellout you've ever seen from a company, product, organization, celebrity etc?

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[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 38 insightful - 2 fun38 insightful - 1 fun39 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

Biggest sell outs I've seen are Tegan & Sara. They're kissing transactivists' asses and promoting how virtuous it is to be "fluid" and "nonbinary", and bitching about how evil Terfs are. All the while shitting on lesbians; a demographic that's largely adored them. I heard someone call them the "American Tatu" meaning they're not really gay. That would explain a lot. They're either bisexual twins, or hypocrites.

[–]el-sol-duerme 21 insightful - 3 fun21 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

I met Tegan and Sara. They were the rudest musicians I’ve met. Stopped being a fan after that. Also, I met an trans lesbian who absolutely adored them, but seemed to want to take ok lesbian stereotypes to be “validated.”

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Can you go into detail? I'm really curious what they did!

[–]el-sol-duerme 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I used to work as an usher for a performance space in Times Square. They played for 2 nights, and on one of them I begged my manager to allow me backstage to meet them. He finally permitted me, and when I went back to meet them, they looked at me bewildered and refused to talk to me.

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's shocking! They always had a smug vibe though. Sorry you experienced such rudeness from your idols.

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh wow. They couldn't even say hello for two seconds. Not cool.

Who was the nicest performer you met (or heard of) while working there?

[–]purrvana 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

...

Meanwhile I've taken all their songs off my spotify playlists and stopped wearing their concert tshirts outside. If they explicitly say they don't want money from 'TERFs', they won't get mine (which is easy since they haven't released anything good since Sainthood).

[–]el-sol-duerme 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I find that transbians will take anything stereotypically lesbian and appropriate off of it. Case here, being super-huge-mega fans of Tegan and Sara. I liked them, I know other bisexual and lesbian women who do too. We are/were fans just like with any other musician. It’s this extra excitement that makes transbians’ fanship likening to worship for “lez credit.”

[–]reluctant_commenter 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It’s this extra excitement that makes transbians’ fanship likening to worship for “lez credit.”

Yup. "Look at meeee, I like X topic, that makes me sUcH a lesbian!" I have heard the same thing with other celebrities or songs too, like being a "Girl in Red" megafan being supposedly equivalent to being lesbian.

Just goes to serve TRAs' fundamental belief: Being lesbian is a lifestyle and a culture, a fun choice you can make. Sounds like the same old homophobia, just repackaged.

[–]el-sol-duerme 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don’t understand why they think suddenly worshipping Tegan and Sara makes one take the lesbian card? They probably weren’t fans, or even heard of them, until they became “lesbians.”

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I read their memoir:

https://www.amazon.com/High-School-Sara-Quin/dp/0374169942

I was never a fan of their music. I honestly thought they were girlfriends with each other, I didn't realize they were twins until I read the book. And I hate to speculate on someone's sexuality, but it did feel to me like one of them is very likely bi-in-denial, and the other one is also, but to a lesser degree. We have to keep in mind the stories they presented in their memoir are highly curated and edited to make them seem how they want the world to see them, but that vibe/suspicion/feeling (of them also being attracted to males but denying it) still came through to me.

It's a good book, if anyone wants to read. The 90's were a hell of a time to be a bi/lesbian girl. We were so much freer back then and we didn't even realize it.

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The 90's were a hell of a time to be a bi/lesbian girl. We were so much freer back then and we didn't even realize it.

Man that makes me so sad. I missed the good times by being born too late

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It was like a long stretch of "must hide! no one will accept me!" and then there was a short, possibly 5-10 year window where you could just be freely LGB and it was kind of safe, depending on where you were, and then homophobia came back with a vengeance, "suck my girldick" style. But being scared in the closet in the 90's was 100000% better than what's happening to lesbians/bi girls now. No one was telling us "you're actually a boy" or "you must date this trans person." Even the butchest, most masculine girl was still seen as a tomboy, not a trans boy. If you wanted to find a normal, non-weirdo girlfriend, you could. You never had to worry about "Is this a gender special? Is this a tumblrsexual? Is this a handmaid to trans? Is this a pansexual who only likes dick?"

My heart literally breaks for young les/bi girls. They are missing out on so much. Innocent first love without interference from identity politics and fetishists with agendas.

[–]hetisachoice 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This was in the planning stages even before that. Back in the 1970s, Hollywood was pushing this before I was even born with movies such as Myra Breckinridge and TV shows such as Medical Center for which Robert Reed won an Emmy for playing a heterosexual man who gets a sex change in a guest appearance.

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Your comment is so true. One of the worst things about gender ideology and TRA takeover is that it makes it so much harder for lesbians and bi women to find each other now. All the physical places are either cancelled or forced to let in autogynephilic men (which results in lesbians leaving). So all lesbian places are shut down through this malafide "inclusion". Same with dating apps, look at HER for example. My partner and I found each other through sheer luck in person. But my entire teens and early twenties, I didn't know any lesbians, at least none that called themselves lesbians.

[–]reluctant_commenter 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But being scared in the closet in the 90's was 100000% better than what's happening to lesbians/bi girls now.

Do you really think so? I ask because I am definitely in the younger generation and while I got some experience of more "old-school" homophobia (conservative religious homophobic family), I don't feel like I have enough experience to compare TQ+ homophobia to 90s homophobia.

Innocent first love without interference from identity politics and fetishists with agendas.

Yeahhh. At least there's this lovely pandemic making that difficult, so TRAs aren't making us miss out on as much, hahaha.

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I really depends on where you lived, of course. I spent many years both on the east coast and the west coast and back then it was SSSOOOOO EASY to find a girlfriend. You just walk down a street and a girl smiles at you and that's it. You go into the Starbucks, and the barista draws a heart over the whipped cream on your latter with chocolate sauce, your fingers touch as you take the cup, instant love. Your homophobic aunt is standing next to you, completely clueless. You go in to file some paper work in the whatever office, and the girl working the copy machine grins at you. It's your first day at work at whatever company, and the older woman in charge of the whatever department smiles at you and invites you to lunch. You're walking someplace to visit your dad and a dogwalker with 8 dogs going in all directions stops in the middle of the street to chat you up.

These were all just a tiny handful of the IRL experiences I had. It was such a magical time. It felt like the whole world was filled with happy, confident, secure lesbians. And now it feels like they're all gone. I don't live in America anymore, but I see on the internet, all the lesbians are asking "Where have all the lesbians gone?" They're all hiding behind a computer, terrified!

I'm so sorry, this is not fair to any of you. It's not supposed to be like this!

[–]hetisachoice 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We were so much freer back then and we didn't even realize it.

That changed the moment the movie Transamerica came out.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

All I remember is Yulia Volkova of Tatu saying this.

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Shit, I thought Tatu was genuinely gay supportive, despite being fake lesbians? That is disappointing

[–]justasking918273Ally 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The other one, Lena Katina, is supportive of homosexuality I think.

[–][deleted] 23 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Always removing the Venus symbol from their period products because some female nonbinary genderspecial felt like that wasn't 'inclusive' enough.

Every celebrity who shat on JK Rowling, especially after her essay (Daniel Radcliffe, Emma Watson, etc)

The Canadian cancer society unironically putting on their website that transwomen have cervixes and can get cervical cancer

[–]insta 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I can only imagine how many times that webpage had to be reviewed and how many drafts they went through to avoid offending anybody. Less than 300 words but I imagine it took a team a whole week or two to come up with that and consult with some diversity director.

[–][deleted] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The whole site is a dumpster fire. This section about transwomen shouldn't be there at all though. Wokespeak has no place in medicine or academia. Transwomen don't have cervixes, therefore they can't get cervical cancer. But that's hate speech now apparently. There's another bit on the website about 'lesbian, bisexual, and queer women and breast cancer screenings':

Maybe you don’t identify with your breasts.

I'm almost certain the vast majority of women don't 'identify' with our breasts. But this kind of language is being pushed everywhere so genderspecials get brainwashed into thinking normal people wake up every day identifying with our gender roles and sex organs. Then websites like this come along and pander to the woke brigade.

[–]insta 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm almost certain the vast majority of women don't 'identify' with our breasts.

The irony of people talking about "identifying with body parts" on a website about cancer.

If only we could pretend away cancer the same way we do pretending a neovagina is real.

[–]hetisachoice 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Trump built the wall on the wrong side of the border.

[–]insta 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Stfu. Where do you think we get all this bullshit from?

There are brain dead lunatics who just copy & paste progressive talking points from the states which half the time aren't even applicable to Canada. It's such a joke.

[–]purrvana 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm glad I haven't spent money on my period in 8 years (menstrual cup for the win) otherwise I wouldn't know which company to buy period products from that still believe women exist. Even Diva Cup mentions something about "not only for cis women" on their website. At least they still use the word woman, I guess.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's ridiculous that after all of the shame women have endured over the years due to menstruating (and are even persecuted for it in some places), we can't even claim it as a marker of femaleness anymore. Companies like Always, Diva, and Thinx are too busy bending themselves into fractal designs trying to be woke.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So by calling something a cervix means that if it becomes cancerous, it is cervical cancer?

I don't know much about cancer, but wouldn't any cancer grown in a "neocervix" be cancer of the part it was grafted from? Like scrotum cancer if the cancer is from a former scrotum?

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 20 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

The pride train:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8665469/Avanti-West-Coasts-pride-train-sparks-fury-LGBT-passengers.html

ALso, off topic but I didn't remember what this was called and I googled "gay train" to try and find it. And apparently there is a book out there called Gay on a Train. I'm just sitting here like...................... ok, that's enough internet for today.

https://www.amazon.com/Gay-Train-K-C-Wells-ebook/dp/B08BK299KM

[–]censorshipment 15 insightful - 7 fun15 insightful - 6 fun16 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Yikes! I really hate pandering.

[–][deleted] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

God, that is just embarrassing.

[–]hetisachoice 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

This Julie Andrews puppet show makes me glad they cast Audrey Hepburn in My Fair Lady on screen instead. Why can't a woman be more like a man? I don't know, Mrs. Edwards, you tell me.