"I pressured my bisexual girlfriend until she told me she was lesbian! Hooray!" Uh, what?

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[–]EzukiRaen 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I skimmed through some of the OP's comments and I'm not convinced that this post was made to be taken seriously. I think it's just a dumb joke. She even says at some point that she knows you can't convert anyone/change anyone's sexuality. I think it was just a silly thought that came to her head after a conversation she had with her girlfriend.

I do think the post could be funny and light-hearted or harmful and tasteless depending on the context of where it's posted/the audience viewing it. I think the main reason why I would personally consider it tasteless is because of the fact that the post was made on AL. They have a very bad, yet entirely deserved, reputation for being homophobic. I think I'm less concerned about the OP than I am about the way this may be received by the AL audience. Based off of their reputation and past actions I do think it's fair to assume that a large chunk of their audience are impressionable young people. I also think it's fair to assume that a lot of their members, specifically those who actively view their content, think it's acceptable to "convert" people (and by this I mean both with regards to one's sexuality and by pressuring people into thinking they're trans) and they may very well see this post as a reinforcement to that idea.

It's very difficult to try and reconcile the discrepancies between what people who follow QT say vs what they mean. Their entire ideology is built off of lies and contradictions. It's based off of how people feel and not really about what people think. I'm not sure if it's even possible for anyone to actually, fully understand QT because words and concepts aren't static to them. They're dynamic in the sense that they're entirely based off of an individual's interpretation and understanding of it. QT may have started out with good intentions but, as the saying goes: "the road to hell is paved with good intentions".

[–]HelloMomo 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree. As Discourse™ it's iffy, but as like a joke amongst friends I think it's pretty innocuous. Cause like... some lesbians do think they're bisexual for a time, before realizing they're not actually. I think everyone knows a friend like that.

[–]shveya 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Based on the post history, they might be an actual woman (but they're in Canada, so who knows lo). I think you're right about them joking around though.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I skimmed through some of the OP's comments and I'm not convinced that this post was made to be taken seriously. I think it's just a dumb joke. 

"It was just a joke, guys! Don't get mad at me!" She may actually have been just joking but I have seen this kind of backtracking a lot on AL, so who knows.

I also think it's fair to assume that a lot of their members, specifically those who actively view their content, think it's acceptable to "convert" people (and by this I mean both with regards to one's sexuality and by pressuring people into thinking they're trans) and they may very well see this post as a reinforcement to that idea.

Yes, exactly. Even if the person who made a joke was "just joking," most people on AL are not... Among my generation (border of gen Z/millenial), the message that that sexual orientation can easily change is super common. I've had multiple people tell me so in-person. And posts like THIS are exactly the sort of encouragement that reinforce that idea.

Besides, this is how she uses the word "lesbian". No wonder she made a meme about converting her gf to being lesbian:

My gf told me she now realizes she was trying to “make lesbian love to men” (more sensual and intimate,lots of foreplay etc) and now realizes why she was never satisfied lol

The best case scenario is that OP is just being thoughtless-- and sure, I'm willing to believe that possibility as one among several. But bottomline, her comments are harmful and perpetuate extremely damaging stereotypes ("lesbians are predatory/want to convert other women") and I am not going to give someone a pass for their behavior even if it was intended to be a "silly joke".