Gay MenGirl wonders why gay men don't see her as a man 🙄

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[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 88 insightful - 19 fun88 insightful - 18 fun89 insightful - 19 fun -  (31 children)

Again, why are AGP males "transbians" and this fujoshi girls only and I repeat, ONLY, obsessed with the only subset of the population with whom they have 0 chance with. The level of entitlement and narcissism is high lmao. Also:

I really just want an online community with other gays that accept me and my body as it is and treats me as any other gay men

I'm 30 trans transmasc NONBINARY btw.

So you want to be treated as "any other gay man", yet you're a non binary, meaning neither male or female, at the same time? Make it make sense 😂

In 2020, it's LITERALLY controversial apparently to say lesbians don't like dick and gays don't like vagina. So that means that me, as a lesbian, could literally, right now, decide to identify as a man and scream to straight women they're being transphobic for not seeing me as a 'real men' and that they should not only see me as a real men, as be attracted to me. Like that's literally what these crazy blue haired AGP males and fujoshi girls are doing. 😒

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 65 insightful - 9 fun65 insightful - 8 fun66 insightful - 9 fun -  (3 children)

The fact that she wants to be "non-binary" and treated as a gay man by everybody around her just proves that "non-binary" is a lot of horseshit. I thought non-binary meant being neither a man nor a woman. You’d have to have a single digit IQ to take this woman seriously.

[–]8bitgay 38 insightful - 9 fun38 insightful - 8 fun39 insightful - 9 fun -  (2 children)

I thought non-binary meant being neither a man nor a woman.

It means that when it's time to show how you're unique and beyond that antiquated gender binary.

It doesn't mean that when you realize that not being a man/woman would lock you out of gay/lesbian sexuality and spaces.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 17 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

So non-binary online when it’s convenient then? Or NBOWC? Definitely makes no sense.

[–]LeoneOkada 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

My gosh, this gives me headaches.

[–]FrostyNugsI'm allergic to nuts 45 insightful - 16 fun45 insightful - 15 fun46 insightful - 16 fun -  (21 children)

why are AGP males "transbians" and this fujoshi girls only and I repeat, ONLY, obsessed with the only subset of the population with whom they have 0 chance with.

Because they watched too much lesbian porn or read too much yaoi and now their lesbian/gay fetish has taken over their lives to the point that they believe that taking horse piss pills to grow moobs or roids to grow a few sad, wispy, pube-like beard hairs will let them actually live their fantasies. Their coom-fried brains just can't process that a soft uwu girldick isn't going to be appealing to lesbians or that a hyena-esque clenis isn't going to do it for gay men.

[–]Shadow_Lurker 49 insightful - 2 fun49 insightful - 1 fun50 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They are fixated on the fantasy of being gay and lesbian and not the actual thing itself.

AGPs also follow the same mindset: it's not about "passing" or trying to "pass", but making ordinary people forcibly engage with their fetish via validation.

[–]marmorsymphata 23 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

And of course fujoshi spaces have deep, deep homophobic beliefs that codify abuse between gay men as the norm, where a gay man is either born a top and faultlessly abusive or born a bottom and naturally loving abuse, so they are shocked when they reach real gay spaces and do not have yall bowing down immediately

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 22 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

I've been to yaoi panels at anime conventions and the room ends up being filled with like 80% women who have an unbelievable mental lexicon of yaoi. 10% gays. 10% straight boys who saw the 18+ and unknowingly show up to be mentally scarred.

The enjoyment I get here is watching the straight boys response when they learn what yaoi is for the first time. The gays in the room are more amused in a cringy way. The women are all screeching in excitement like banshees as they literally show some rape scene.

This was years ago at this point so perhaps they have now morphed into FtMs. Also the yaoi they showed was kind of crazy and the host explicitly stated that they had to show limited scenes because most of the stuff was way worse. The implication was that there was some extremely underage stuff going on in the scenes that they didn't show.

So... trigger / content warning...

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The thing they showed us was really crazy. The older character was clearly an anime looking adult like 20s or 30s and the bottom was stated to be of age but was drawn to look very young. The older one clearly seems to rape the boy as he says no and fights back but they give him the anime blush cheeks as the other guy goes in. The thing that really made me go wtf was the close up shot. Of the bottom guys taint. The first penetration had the top line up behind him then slam it all in at once and a big bead of blood runs down the taint. Like a shot glass of corn syrup.

I think that only now do I realize how fucked up those girls were. There were about 3 reactions in the audience my friends and I looked at each other and I think we found it so ridiculous that it became funny. I remember looking and seeing the straight guys in something like shell shock. The girls in the room though... when the blood came down and the boy did his anime blush the girls did their gleeful screeching. They were all smiling and clasping their fists in excitement. I remember talking to my friend there asking wtf is with these girls? He blew it off like they were just "weird" and then so did I.

And now we are in a position where those people are dictating morality.

[–]JulienMayfair 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's fucking horrifying.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's just disgusting. I have no words.

[–]MrFahrenheit46 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jesus Christ, that's fucking messed up.

[–]QueenBread 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Hey now. I was one of those screaming girls cheering in excitement as they literally show a manga about a rape scene between a man and some teen who looks barely legal.

I'm also not a nutcase that can't distinguish reality from fiction. Don't lump us all in the same category. Otherwise, you're like those people clamoring that playing Mortal Kombat turns you into a murderer (and then this means we have 11 millions potential murderers!).

Don't get me wrong. Somehow, I could bet that somewhere there's some dumb girl who doesn't understand the difference betwen porn comics and reality. I'm also guessing there must be some mentally disturbed individual who thinks the fatalities in Mortal Kombat are an inspiration. However, that doesn't mean yaoi or violent videogames are to blame here. Ban those, and they'd just turn their stupidity or insanity somewhere else. And you can't censor the entire world, especially when non-crazy people enjoy that stuff for fun.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I'm not against yaoi in general but this stuff is essentially CP but the characters are animated so they can claim that the 12 year old looking guy is 18.

What are you screaming about while watching this? The gay guys that watched it had a (yikes / cringe ) response. Those girls were basically screaming in excitement over animated violent CP rape. The weirdest part is the animated reaction of the boy who seems fine having himself ripped and bloody. I think the blood is what really pushed me over the line. I don't know what "artistic expression" was being conveyed.

[–]QueenBread 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I don't know what "artistic expression" was being conveyed.

The same artistic expression you'll find in the overly popular, overly successful violent products like the SAW series or the GTA series.

Do you know how dog cubs would play biting each other? But they don't actually hurt each other? That's kinda the same thing.

In all honesty, if you campaign against rapey yaoi, you should also campaign against every sexual or violent media.

Again, watching a slasher film hardly means you want to chase promiscuous teenagers with a chainsaw.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I really don't like the way you compare play biting to CP and murder.

[–]QueenBread 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

And I really don't like the way you compare a comic book or a videogame to real life.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I did neither of those things, you did.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Hey, can I ask, why would this demographic women who are into yaoi also get into rape / c**** porn? Like, is it shock value, are they trying to deal with trauma / under-developed sexuality or what? I'm confused.

[–]QueenBread 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hey there. The majority of fans of this hardcore rapey yaoi tend to be young (teenagers or first college years). Adults tend to tune it down a bit.

I've spent my school years with certain likeminded friends and we would go to the yaoi section of comiccons and squeal at the non-con, the shota, and all that. Heck, I remember my classmates playfully made fun of me by gifting me a bunch of plastic toy snakes, due to a porn yaoi comic I had about a talking snake who raped some dude. Good times.

So, I know from first experience. It's not about "trauma" or "under-developed sexuality", but mostly the exact opposite of it.

The "shock value" part of it? That part is true. It's like when you get a thrill watching a horror film, but then you get used to it, so you seek out an even grosser and gorier horror film that can still scare you out.

It's harmless fun and it's about as dangerous as heavy metal fans listening to "demonic" song lyrics.

I've never met a yaoi or shota fan who wasn't actually a perfectly normal and adjusted lady (if a little bit on the nerd side)...... but I'm sure that somewhere there has to be some yaoi or shota fan who is genuinely disturbed. Keep in mind, however, that doesn't mean that yaoi fans are disturbed, but that a disturbed person can happen to be a yaoi fan.

[–]fuckupaddamsBisexual Terve 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They show real life honest to god animated porn to a room of people at anime conventions...?

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's rated R. You need to be there late like at midnight and they check IDs. There was no penetration shown but pretty damn close.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What the fuck did I just read.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 29 insightful - 8 fun29 insightful - 7 fun30 insightful - 8 fun -  (1 child)

Again, why are AGP males "transbians" and this fujoshi girls only and I repeat, ONLY, obsessed with the only subset of the population with whom they have 0 chance with.

Cuz it's all about that sweet, sweet "validation" (a word we'll need to fumigate before ever using again) for them. Namely of their fantasy about being the opposite sex. So no one who could even potentially be attracted to their actual sex will do. Meaning that both heterosexuals and bisexuals are ruled out. These AGP men require lesbians, and these fujoshi girls require gay men, as "proof" of being perceived in accordance with their genderfeelz. Though of course all it's really "proof" of is their unabashed rapeyness. So lesbians and gay men are nothing more than props here.

My solution: since "transbians" claim that TWAW/"gay transmen" claim that TMAM, just get that all-important "validation" from each other ! Whaddaya need "cis" people for? After all, WE-- unlike you-- don't believe this genderfeelz bullshit! So put yer money (and girldick/boipussy) where your mouth is!

[–]Shadow_Lurker 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My solution: since "transbians" claim that TWAW/"gay transmen" claim that TMAM, just get that all-important "validation" from each other !

They'll just use the tired old excuse of 'disphoria' (the magical word) in order to justify their own cognitive dissonance.

[–][deleted] 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because they're straight. But:

  1. Straight relationships don't validate their identity.
  2. They know even if the above weren't true a straight person would laugh in their face if they pulled this.
  3. They know LGs, being part of the "community", are under more pressure to be inclusive
  4. Many of them refuse to date a bisexual because of point 1.

So they go after LGs, unfortunately.

[–]JulienMayfair 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Again, why are AGP males "transbians" and this fujoshi girls only and I repeat, ONLY, obsessed with the only subset of the population with whom they have 0 chance with.

It's the greatest form of validation and "gender euphoria." It's probably somewhat comparable to gay men who are obsessed with the idea of getting with straight guys, and I say that as a gay man who had his own straight friend episode.

[–]joogabahGay shows the way 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Same sex desire is universal; opposite sex desire is not. This is simply a function of being one's own sex. It is not possible to be alienated from or unfamiliar with one's own form. Straight guys can have strong emotional attachments with guys, and same sex nudity (and even things like circle jerks) were until recently extremely common and not considered "gay" (being effeminate or being fucked up the *ss were - anything making you take a feminine role, to such an extent that "gay" is often synonymous with "womanly"). I've had two "straight" best friends cut me off for years in my 20s because they could not stomach any sexual attraction on my part, only to come back in my life in my 40s and permit some mild sex play, admitting the feelings were mutual back in the day. Straight people are straight because society demands it on pain of severe ostracism and worse. They were still executing homosexuals in Britain in the 19th century. No analysis of sexual orientation is complete without acknowledging this massive determinant.