Men's IssuesA transwoman's objection to gay male spaces

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[–]Willpoll 28 insightful - 4 fun28 insightful - 3 fun29 insightful - 4 fun -  (11 children)

Good lord lol. that paragraph is so confusing. So I am to understand that the person who wrote it is mtf and attracted to dudes? if so, why are they on a site for gay men? can't speak for other guys here but if your trying to be a woman I don't really think you should be in gay male spaces. after all, they are for gay males Also why would a trans woman help with a "top drought"???

[–]JulienMayfair[S] 29 insightful - 2 fun29 insightful - 1 fun30 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Also why would a trans woman help with a "top drought"???

One shudders to think.

What I get from it is that he/she demands to be recognized as a woman, but also wants to be treated as a man whenever convenient and/or the mood strikes.

[–]artetolife 29 insightful - 5 fun29 insightful - 4 fun30 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

Having your cake and eating it too is pretty typical of modern trans. Why settle for being a man or a woman when you can opt in or out of whichever parts of both sides appeal to you? Doesn't need to make any sense because it's the job of cis scum to make it happen.

[–]ColoredTwice 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If they can opt out of "being women", then why they are allowed in women's spaces? They can opt out in it and become dangerous even by their own logic.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is very reasonable concern, but I don't think any gender ideology cultist will listen to it.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Having his cake and eating it too, I suppose. He wants to be seen as heterosexual, but still wants to have homosexual relationships with homosexual men. He doesn’t want to live with the negative consequences of his failed efforts to appease his internalised homophobia.

[–]JulienMayfair[S] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

He wants to be seen as heterosexual,

I'm certain he wouldn't want to give up his "queer" status to be a boring old hetero.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He realises that in this day and age you don’t need to be gay or bisexual to be considered "queer".

[–]denverkrisMy pronouns are Vodka?/Yes!/please 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And yet people think women are bigots for not wanting these men in our private spaces. And I never had any issue sharing private spaces with gay men/drag queens/old school transsexuals. Nowadays too many of these transwomen and non binaries and "queers" and gender fluids just seem to me like straight men with extra steps.

[–]Willpoll 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Strange days indeed

[–]JulienMayfair[S] 20 insightful - 6 fun20 insightful - 5 fun21 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

I mean, if they want us to treat gender identity as some profoundly experienced, immutable trait at the core of their being that deserves legal protection, shouldn't they at least act like it's more than whatever mood they happen to be in for the next fifteen minutes?

[–]denverkrisMy pronouns are Vodka?/Yes!/please 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

if they could "act" better, more of them would probably "pass".