DiscussionOther than defending against the T, what else do you think should be LGB priorities?

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[–]SedateApe 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

First off .... here in this sub ... a HUGE reduction of posts that mostly go: "Look what the T are doing now!" We aren't supposed to care what "they" are doing. We should be concerned about what "we" are, aren't, and should be doing.

Second ... find that LGB based organization starting here in the States, like the LGB Alliance in the UK, and join it! The LGB community MUST become a political movement AGAIN! Along with being an educational and support organization.

Next ... downloading AND printing out/copying any and all OLDER articles, videos, audios, and whatever that tells the TRUE and REAL history of the gay movement/life/struggle.

The more "we" bitch and complain about the TQ+WTF crowd the longer they have a control over us. Time to over come and move away!

The new LGB community has to be fresh! It has to be open minded to OUR desires and direction. It must be supportive and educational WHILE ALSO becoming a strong political movement. Sadly you need to become political to get money (donations and grants) so we can become a bigger political movement...or we won't be heard. Being heard, politically, is the only way to correct all the bullshit being done in OUR NAME!

As most of us know the TRUE gay history is being stolen. It's being rewritten to include T people where none existed. The world is now being told that gay rights began with T people...and we know this is false. But the proof is vanishing.

Some day, in the near future, we...the LGBT community...will be able to reset gay history...but only if we have those original articles and videos and audio clips. If you find one, check the date. See if it's original or been rereleased with TQ+WTF language added. The base story may be accurate but the rewrite will shine the light where it doesn't belong. But that original unchanged item may still out there. We just have to dig deeper!

Do not bookmark it...print it out or transfer it (in the case of audio or video) to a memory stick. Bookmarked pages are subject to rewriting. And videos and audios are starting to be deleted from social media if they don't fit the TQ+WTF narrative.

Print it out and transfer what you find. And keep it safe! What YOU find may very well help during the recreating of the truth.

And please....a little less of the "Look what they're doing/saying now!" stuff. We shouldn't care what "they" do with their cult of inclusion. We don't belong.

[–]HelloMomo[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We aren't supposed to care what "they" are doing. We should be concerned about what "we" are, aren't, and should be doing.

In the time since I created this post and now, I learned that they're working on starting a s/LGB for specifically that, which I think will be good

[–]SedateApe 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A new sub for LGB would be great!

I know there are allot of T stories that are worth hearing about: changing gay history; erasing of G, L, and B; acts of T assault; etc. The sub title ends with "droptheT" and might be best not to but so much power in their hands...which is what's happening with all the "Look...." postings.

I'm sure there are plenty of TRA and TQ+WTF people watch here. They are probably tickled pink knowing how much time those here spend talking about them. Being a core portion of the posts is a win for them.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Internet archives are underestimated. And invaluable in dealing with the TQ historical revisionism.

Yeah, there's a whole lot of the 'T's acting bad' topics. A function of the sheer number of GC people here. Even being GC myself, I think it's way too much sometimes.

[–]PeakingPeachEaterfemale♀ | detrans🦎 | eater of peaches 🍑 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, I was looking through the GC and this sub just now...It makes me a bit depressed hearing about TQ all the time. I sometimes wish it was more focused on a different direction.

Ex. For this sub, if we can focus on LGB topics/issues. Maybe talk about the topics brought up in this thread(Sex ed., community, domestic violence, history, representation, etc.)

And similar for GC, I was kinda looking for a women-centric thread talking about women issues(without bastardizing ALL men as these evil tyrants because wow lol) and without talking about trans all the time. Maybe something that we as women can do to be more educated on certain matters and make a change or just simply talk about cool female representation?

I get that people want to vent though, because I have and I'm guilty of it...but like mentioned prior, just getting a little bit depressed hearing/seeing it everywhere.

I know technically "if you want to see the change, be the change" but..I tend to lurk more or mostly comment not so much make much posts.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ex. For this sub, if we can focus on LGB topics/issues. Maybe talk about the topics brought up in this thread(Sex ed., community, domestic violence, history, representation, etc.)

And similar for GC, I was kinda looking for a women-centric thread talking about women issues(without bastardizing ALL men as these evil tyrants because wow lol) and without talking about trans all the time. Maybe something that we as women can do to be more educated on certain matters and make a change or just simply talk about cool female representation?

Not a bad idea.

Tbh, I'm mostly a lurker as well. Not a "power poster". And can't really be as I second guess my own comments way too much, so my visible activity stays low. But I'm gonna do my best in getting some balance in here. Maybe posting LGB topics which counterbalance all the 'TQ bad' content. I mean, I'm pretty GC, so this'll be going against the grain, but it does get a bit tired when there's little break from it. And I've been on the receiving end what happens when people get too fixated on TQ stuff. They start attacking even those on their side. Not a pretty sight, but eye-opening.

[–]PeakingPeachEaterfemale♀ | detrans🦎 | eater of peaches 🍑 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks. If you do posts some LGB threads, I'll be there to support it! I heard that they have a separate subsaidit called s/LGB. I'm currentky waiting for it to open up. I'd love to take a gander over there when I've had my TQ fill.

I was also thinking maybe this place might be able to help LGB people who are thinking of transitioning...because I have detransitioned, and have sympathy for (some) of them(depending on reasoning for transition). I grew up in conservative, religious, and sexist household and it was way of escape. Then I peaked when I left household pretty much. Realized I did not need to change myself in such ways. Never went through with surgery nor hormone. I have indepth comments about it elsewhere...I like some posts where they reach out to redditors too to let them know being LG or B is OK and they do not need to accept TQ theory.

But anyways, dealing with TQ is quite exhausting and it sucks that you had to deal with people who were to fixated with it. Similarly, I deal with TQ in my real life on the daily: my terrible, condenscending boss happens to be MtF, my co-worker friend buys into TQ theory, my previous jobs my coworkers bought into TQ and I felt indifferent.

I mostly post topics in GC tbh. Particularly looking for...advice. I agree with most of their views, but don't agree with some OR how they go about it. But that might just be the loud minority saying the awful things and not really GC itself. I'm still a bit new with GC and LGB. Never really followed communities/groups or considered myself part of anything. Found myself to mostly be an outsider observer, listening and learning.