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[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 36 insightful - 4 fun36 insightful - 3 fun37 insightful - 4 fun -  (11 children)

Omg, I decided to lurk at r/truscum and I don't know who is the worst. TRA or truscum. Like they're both so delusional. These is what I found somewhere in the comments from this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/truscum/comments/ikq9dk/genital_preferences_are/

Sexuality is mainly based on secondary sexual characteristics, we are usually attracted to somebody long before we know which genitals they have.

Yeah, framing it like ride or die is kind of unrealistic. I’m sure 99% of people would be surprised/confused if the person they were seeing turned out not to have the genitals they were expecting but I imagine more would be willing to work through it rather than he totally game from the get go

Why are trans people so far away from reality?

[–]FrostyNugsI'm allergic to nuts 23 insightful - 4 fun23 insightful - 3 fun24 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I feel like r/truscum used to be somewhat sane, i.e., acknowledging their biological sex and that they were transitioning to alleviate the worst symptoms of their gender dysphoria. And then the tumblr kiddies rolled up and now it's just a collective of the angstiest teenage ftms who are Not Like The Other Trans.

[–]8bitgay 22 insightful - 4 fun22 insightful - 3 fun23 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Sexuality is mainly based on secondary sexual characteristics, we are usually attracted to somebody long before we know which genitals they have.

It's funny because according to this idea gay men can be attracted to transmen who take hormones to emulate characteristics like beard and body hair, but gay men can't be attracted to actual cis guys who shave their facial/body hair.

[–]jiljol 21 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They fail to understand that secondary sex characteristics in non-transgender human beings are indicators of our primary sex characteristics. Up until very recently, significant facial hair or lack thereof was a clear sign that that person had male sex organs or female sex organs respectively. Sure, it might be a bit of a mindfudge to see someone like Buck Angel, who is part of the 0.01% of transgender-identified people who pass with clothes on, naked, but it's ultimately irrelevant in the grand scheme of human sexual attraction.

It's also interesting and awfully convenient the way truscum frame sexual attraction. To them, it's simply a matter of how well one can pass as the opposite sex (again, as long as the clothes are kept on), completely ignoring the fact that androgynous people exist. Remember the tweet about an androgynous-looking gay guy kissing an androgynous-looking lesbian by accident (https://i.imgur.com/bQD2o0D.png)? Alphabet soup activists went ballistic, demanding that he "explore" his orientation and be more "open minded" and he just laughed at them and told them the facts: they were just two homosexual people caught in a hilarious and embarrassing situation. Stuff like this angers them because it shows that just because you superficially resemble a person of the opposite sex doesn't mean you are actually a member of that sex. Just because you spent your life savings on a suit, expensive shoes and a Rolex doesn't mean you are a millionaire.

[–]aftx 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I assumed they were more sane. they're the ones who think that not anyone can be trans, you need to have a medical condition.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah[S] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They are still vicious misogynists

[–]ImNOTRobertPaulson 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Sexuality is mainly based on secondary sexual characteristics, we are usually attracted to somebody long before we know which genitals they have

I always find this argument odd. I mean, sure, as a gay man I will be attracted to a guy before I know which genitals he has, but part of that attraction is my mental picture of what he looks like, and maybe it's just me, but that mental picture assumes a penis...

[–]denverkrisMy pronouns are Vodka?/Yes!/please 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"but that mental picture assumes a penis..."

It's sad that we have to state the obvious these days.

[–]denverkrisMy pronouns are Vodka?/Yes!/please 16 insightful - 6 fun16 insightful - 5 fun17 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

If we've been hanging out/dating whatever long enough for things involving genitals to be on the table and you haven't told me that the carpet doesn't match the drapes, I am going to be pissed. End of story.

[–]Ladis_Wascheharuum 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I've never seen a truscum insist that others must date/fuck them. Not saying it never happens, though.

Truscum at least understand that being trans is a medical condition and not everyone can be trans just by saying they are. They are generally more rational than the others.

[–]jiljol 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Truscum word their homophobia differently and in a seemingly "nicer" way, which is why it is often overlooked. While a tucute might say something like "I identify as a man/woman, therefore I am a man/woman and thus part of your dating pool!", truscum will focus on superficiality like hormones and surgeries, e.g. "Gay men date and have sex with transmen all the time, same with lesbians and transwomen! Take a look at these heavily-photoshopped pictures of post-op transgender people and tell me they are not desirable!" Neither side ultimately acknowledges the reality of exclusive same-sex attraction.

[–]shveya 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I do think truscum are worse than most people realise, they just know how to behave better in public. They still constantly shit on women and feminists in their online spaces, and they push the "brain sex" idea.