DiscussionBeing associated with radical feminism is dragging this movement down.

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[–]BiHorror 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

Jesus, didn't know they did all that. At most, I just saw misandry. Didn't know they would be against me for having a mental disorder. I don't get how they can be anti-intersex tho? Do they support IGM or something?

[–]lairacunda 16 insightful - 4 fun16 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Don't believe everything you read, especially from uninformed people talking about people they don't like.

Radical feminists are not anti-gay, anti-mentally ill, anti-intersex and have also been campaigning AGAINST genital mutilation for DECADES.

What's going on here is that this sub is getting BRIGADED by people who hate radical feminists and who don't really know a lot about us or what we think or believe.

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 4 insightful - 6 fun4 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 6 fun -  (6 children)

Yeah they use "mentally ill" as an insult and to describe people they don't like. Trans people being perverts? Mental illness. Women not subscribing to radical feminism? Mental illness. Someone posting something they disagree with? Mental illness.

They basically think that intersex people are akin to trans people and that we too are dress-wearing perverts who want to oppress the brave womyn or something. They deny that intersex conditions exist beyond mild ones, and insist that all intersex people are normal-looking men and women with minor to none health issues, which simply isn't true. People like me who are naturally androgynous and have sex characteristics of the opposite sex are deemed "liars" and apparently are just LARPing for a fetish, even though I've made about 500 posts being very clear with the fact that my life isn't easy and I specifically HATE being sexualized and fetishized for being a feminine male.

[–]lairacunda 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I've never heard anyone except TRAs say that intersex and trans are the same. Trans have been co-opting the intersex narrative for decades. They lifted the term "assigned at birth" from them and often claim they are intersexed when they are not.

[–]reluctant_commenter 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah, they use "mentally ill" as an insult and to describe people they don't like.

Ok you're not wrong, I actually see that a lot when I lurk on there. Something has bothered me about the GC sub (on reddit and on saidit) for a while, but I didn't put a name to it. That is very toxic.

I'm sorry you had people be so toxic towards you about being intersex, that's bullshit.

[–]BEB 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

GC feminists are allies of intersex people - where are you getting the idea otherwise?

[–]reluctant_commenter 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

The guy who I was responding to just said that. I frankly have no knowledge of how GC feel about intersex people, aside from his comment.

I didn't say that I see people on GC insulting intersex people all the time, I said that I have seen people on GC use "mentally ill" as a put-down.

[–]BEB 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think that I was responding to the OP, so my apologies.

To address your second point, some posters on GC (like me) grew up at a time when speech had much fewer boundries than it does today, and people could say what they thought, because, really, offensive speech was just part of life, and we dealt with it because we had to.

I'd personally rather have someone tell me exactly what they think of me or of a political issue, or whatever, than if they hide it and then we get Trump, because if they tell me upfront, we can discuss it. Believe it or not, people in the US used to discuss politics civilly and remain friends.

Anyway, my best to you. You seem like a fine and thoughtful person.