DiscussionWhy are lesbians more compliant with TRA than gay men?

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[–]Maeven 25 insightful - 2 fun25 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I think infiltration has been their MO for everything. And its why they are paranoid about maintaining ideological purity. They're afraid of infiltrators because they know how easy it is and because that hold on power is more tenuous that in looks. They can only maintain power through fanaticism and suppression of people with independent thoughts.

[–]julesburm1891 25 insightful - 2 fun25 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I don’t want to sound like a nutcase, but here it goes. I finished reading The Cultural Revolution: A People’s History by Frank Dikötter today and so much felt familiar. I’m not saying that the trans rights movement is equivalent to Maoist China or that our setbacks are equivalent to the horrors the Chinese people went through. I am saying that the radicalization, the denial of facts, the desire to tear down any institution that didn’t reinforce their narrative, the obsession of ideological purity, the witch hunts, the use of violence on dissenters, and the public humiliation of people who fell out of line sounds exactly like the climate of the trans movement.

[–]notdelusionalbased faggot 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are significant overlaps with queer theory and other critical theories. Maoism, marxism, it's all sort of inherited. Look at the BLM stuff, it's no mistake that the trans thing is front and center. Creepy as fuck.

[–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It sound like islam. That's how cult works.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

So basically like every other cheater, they don't want their own methods used against them.

Seems like strict vetting, webs of known relationships, members sponsoring other members, and forming private clubs are going to be necessary for a while, as non-inclusive as that sounds. We are way past "this is why we can't have nice things" with this going on. Assuming it's set up correctly, it appears that you can't bitch about who gets into a private club. Don't like someone else's? Make your own. Indiscriminate inclusiveness can be exploited (without even trying) and isn't always suitable for that reason.

Time to deploy some firewalls. Really. No means no.

Interesting stuff at these links, but I don't know what tangled webs of laws and precedents any particular group would have to navigate to try to bulletproof themselves, because you know the TRAs would take them straight to court no matter what, since they have to stick their dicks in every place they are not wanted:

  1. https://law.jrank.org/pages/5315/Club-Protecting-Civil-Rights.html

  2. https://www.workforcebulletin.com/2012/03/09/for-private-clubs-a-little-discrimination-in-membership-can-go-a-long-way/

This conversation is one that should have stopped being necessary after the 1950s. But perhaps these methods can bring some semblance of freedom of association back because ultimately, the abuses going on in these videos should qualify as a violation of civil rights, here in the US at least. Nobody is stopping TRAs from going and doing their own thing. They don't have to see every women's space as a scarce resource to be grabbed and absconded with, but since they do, no more access for them. Reconstitute, reconfigure, resurrect.

Wonder how they are when they're guests at someone's house. With this mentality I would assume they arrive and are immediately holding up the owners to transfer title to them. This is very mafia-like in some ways. What's next, demanding protection money to keep their own kind out of women's spaces?

[–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Remind me of islamic cult. The same shit. Incredible