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[–]cutenoobies 28 insightful - 2 fun28 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Non binary is one of the most pretentious, self-absorbed, and privileged concepts i have ever seen. If you wake up in the morning and your biggest struggle is to think what gender identity you feel as on that day, what colour lipstick will make you more edgy (usually black), what gendered clothes you have to pick, what gendered barber you must go to, and what gendered colour you relate to, or if you are half boy or half girl, I'm not sorry to say but you are creating oppression where it doesn't really exist. If you are offended by such minor inconveniences in your life then you are not really oppressed. Frankly, you don't even know what oppression means.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I can expect some teens to reach out in really dumb ways to be noticed among the herd, but the adults who enable their melodrama should have their head examined.

[–]fuck_reddit 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You kinda raised a point that I think is hilarious about NB people, they all dress the same and think they're breaking the mold. I believe it was an MIT researcher that showed mathematically that counter-cultural movements will always create their own cultural norms. NB is clearly going along that same path.

[–]braincollected 19 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Being non-binary is today's "I'm not like other girls" only it works for both sexes.

[–]fuck_reddit 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

"I'm not like other girls, I like to wear shorts"

[–][deleted] 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Huh. I don't have much contact with other people and because of my severe disability alone, I lead a rather hermit-like existence. Therefore, I generally have difficulties with concepts that are mainly present on the internet. This is one of them, so I have to ask:

Isn't it a bit exhausting for oneself and other people to change one's gender identity regularly or not be able to decide? Or to even think about it? At least it would be for me. It must take quite a lot of mental energy, especially if you have to point it out to other people regularly, because nobody can read your mind. It's much easier for me personally to just do whatever I feel like doing instead of fulfilling any roles. Above all, I have never understood exactly how one should feel as a man or woman. To be more precise, I never thought about it, because I don't care if my feelings fit any role and I have always found labels to be restrictive.

Now I'm confused. Is it because I hardly use social media at all, or are there other reasons why I do not understand this?

[–]Tikiri 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I think you “do not understand this” because a) you seem like an intelligent, thoughtful person who has a good grip on reality and b) nobody understands this billion-genders/non-binary crap, least of all people who go around identifying with them. I’m gen-X so I grew up in an era when both men and women (of all sexual orientations) gleefully indulged in all kinds of gender bending without even thinking about it and because they wanted to. But nowadays you have to declare yourself something, with all the pronouns, flags etc. that go along with it.

[–][deleted] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So it's just one of those fancy words that are worth nothing, mainly meant for shallow people to represent more than they really are because they have nothing else to offer? Well, that explains a lot.

Thanks for your answer.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, same as word "queer" which includes everything in it. And because it is everything - it describe nothing.

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We live in a world full of oppression, poverty, homelessness, war, climate change, and are currently in a global pandemic. But sure. Let's dedicate a special day for special snowflakes (but actually give them a ton of other "international days" too!) to talk about how hard their upper-middle class, financially stable lives are, because they go by "any pronouns" on Twitter and don't think they fit cookie cutter masculinity/femininity 100%.

Mark my words, these examples of the media's (and arguably, humanity's as a whole) poor priorities is exactly the type of shit that's going to lead humans to extinction.

Before, it was super easy to dismiss "Nonbinary" as a stupid fringe Tumblr club and nothing significant nor anything to worry about. But that was before the media started taking it seriously. That was before big corporations like Twitter started to promote "Nonbinary Day" on their trending homepage, and before semi-relevant celebrities such as children's cartoon writers and voice actors started "coming out" and declaring themselves as "nonbinary."

Side note: What IS it with children's cartoon makers and being "Nonbinary?" First Rebecca Sugar (Steven Universe creator), then Jacob Tobia (voice actor for a character on the She-Ra reboot, and also a massive creep) and earlier I saw a screenshot of another one. I'm so glad I don't have kids (and probably won't due to a chronic condition called gayness) because I'd be so worried about them absorbing this literal propaganda written by SJW creeps.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Re: the enby-epidemic among creators of children's cartoons-- WTF???

Here's a possible explanation:

First, cartoons by their very nature lend themselves to unreality. Such as, say, gender-woo. IRL, it's contradicted nonstop by evidence of one's biological sex... but cartoon characters can easily be drawn without that. Like everything else in a cartoon-- its entire world-- they're depicted however the creators want.

Second, the conventions of children's media. Notably the total embargo on sexual content. Partly to keep everything reliably child-appropriate, of course, but also because the characters are typically children themselves (or, even if not, often childlike). The result is that they tend to be, in effect, "neuter".

Moreover, the avoidance of "sex" at any level often includes even biological sex. It is, after all, ultimately rooted in the other, adults-only kind; additionally, with childlike characters, the absence of secondary sex characteristics means that it's just not going to be very evident. Downplaying sex automatically puts the emphasis on gender (since male/female are deprived of any other meaning).

Also: since children are by definition lacking in background knowledge (about culture, history, current events, human psychology, etc.), media designed for them doesn't require it. So, by default, it's inclined towards the "purely-imaginative": self-contained fantasy worlds are the order of the day.

So how does all this explain the outbreak of enby-ness among kiddie-cartoon creators? Well, what kind of person would be drawn to this sort of thing?

Someone attracted to the childlike, right? (Or at least what's deemed "childlike" from an adult POV.) So: big on imagination (such as gender-woo); reality, not so much. Seeks to remake that in their own image. Penchant for ignoring biological sex in favor of "gender", especially "neuter"-style gender.

But that's just a theory, of course. The one thing that I do know for sure about this phenomenon? That it's creepy as all hell.