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    [–]NeedMoreCoffee 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Just because you are a TIM and feel personally offended that does not change reality.

    Gender ideology follows the bite model. It is not a traditional cult with a leader but one grown on the internet. You want me to go over it for you why it qualifies? Or will you just completely ignore my comment again like the last time?

    [–]RationalNeutral 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Oh, sorry, I hadn't intended to ignore any comments. At the same time, there were a lot of threads I was handling simultaneously, so, at a glance, it appeared I had already responded to your comment the last time I visited that thread. I'll address your comment momentarily.

    As for the topic at hand, this particular comment just points out you literally have a sub-rule that bans refutation or more convincing arguments. This is effectively saying "We're not here to be accurate or grounded in reality, we're here to let our imaginations run free from responsibility." It just comes across as incredibly ironic, if not hypocritical, for that to be a concern when you practice the very thing you are criticizing.

    This comment says nothing of your original claim, I really don't know enough about the transgender community as a whole to evaluate whether or not it fits the BITE model or not because despite being transgender I do not actually spend a whole lot of time in those circles. Probably, even less time than you spend while critically analyzing those groups.

    That being said, the fact that independent of those groups, I generally reach the same conclusions purely on the basis of my own personal experience without any influence from those groups largely suggests that it is not a cult preaching anything and more a collection of people with similar life experiences.

    Alternatively, if you are so determined to label me as a cult member, my mere existence on these threads counterargues the following BITE model points:

    Restricing access to non-cult sources of information
    Forbid you from communicating with ex-members and critics
    Deliberately withholding and distorting information
    Instilling dependence and obedience
    Restricting your leisure time and activities
    Requiring you to seek permission for major decisions
    Teaching me to internalize group doctrine as "truth" or "sacred science"
    Instilling black vs. white, us vs them, etc.
    Teaching thought-stopping techniques to prevent critical thoughts and reality-testing
    Allow only positive thoughts
    Reject rational analysis, critical thinking, and constructive criticism
    Instill irrational fears of questioning or leaving the group
    Shun if you disobey or disbelieve
    Teaching that there is no happiness or fulfillment outside the group

    All of the above would mean that in some fashion I should be receiving pushback from the transgender communities for inviting your critical thoughts into my worldview.

    [–]peakingatthemoment 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Hi! Not really a reply to your comment, but I did want to let you know that there is a sub that debates these types of issues on SaidIt. It’s s/gcdebatesqt. We aren’t super large, but we have a group that likes to discuss these things. You should come by. :)

    [–]one1won 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    https://saidit.net/s/Introductions/comments/7tbb/looking_to_challenge_my_own_views/

    He knows. Typical entitlement - male decides for himself where and how much to speak - rules and conventions made by others women be damned.

    [–]RationalNeutral 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    In due time, I will make my way over there.