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[–]NeedMoreCoffee 19 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

Doctors are there to do their fucking job. If a young person comes in with a broken arm and they are on medication that might affect bone strenght they will do follow ups. I had that happen and i'm not trans.

EVERY SINGLE PERSON WITH CHRONIC HEALTH ISSUES OR WHO ARE ON MEDICATIONS HAVE TO DO THE WHOLE MEDICAL HISTORY ALL THE DAMN TIME. BECAUSE ITS A DOCTORS JOB TO MAKE SURE YOU ARENT GOING TO DROP DEAD NEXT WEEK FROM SOME PREVENTABLE CONDITION.

You lot don't even understand basic biology most of the time so how about you let the doctor you went to see do their job without being an entitled brat. And just cause some moron at pink news made up some word salad "trans broken arm syndrome" to whine about it doesn't mean it's a thing. That is not even what syndrome means stop butchering the bloody language. Stop making up words. Stop appropriating illnesses.

If they take care of trans like they would any other patient you lot take issue. If they treat you special you lot take issue. If they don't treat you you lot take issue. Make up your damn minds what you want.

No one needs to deal with that shit, especially not during a bloody pandemic. Seriously.

[–]RationalNeutral 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

If a young person comes in with a broken arm and they are on medication that might affect bone strenght they will do follow ups. I had that happen and i'm not trans.

Great, the fundamental problem is that HRT strengthens bones: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28370342/

You lot don't even understand basic biology most of the time

Well, since HRT is often made difficult to access for many transgender people. A lot of transgender people have to study the intricacies of how hormones are processed in the body so that they can do the appropriate calculations to dose their estrogen (or testosterone) correctly.

Which, in order to accomplish that, involves a more profound understanding of biology that makes it abundantly clear that on a biochemical level men and women have more in common than they differ.

Again, if men and women were so dramatically different as you claim, they would need a men-only vaccine and a women-only vaccine for the covid virus, now wouldn't they?

If they take care of trans like they would any other patient you lot take issue. If they treat you special you lot take issue. If they don't treat you you lot take issue. Make up your damn minds what you want.

Have you ever considered that the transgender population is full of individuals who all have their own separate opinions? There is no transgender hive mind... for that matter since you are keen to label transgender ideology a cult... wouldn't this be evidence that instead of following a singular doctrine, like a cult, the transgender population is allowed to have their own independent thoughts?

No one needs to deal with that shit, especially not during a bloody pandemic. Seriously.

Well, the irony of the situation is that until trump and his supporters explicitly went out of their way to bring transgender care to the forefront of everyone's minds... nobody was dealing with it. Ironically, it is because of other's visceral hatred of us (including members of this sub) that the rest of society has looked at your ilk's actions in horror and decide to rally in support of us.

Good job, you played yourself.

[–][deleted] 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Ok, you claim that you came here to inform yourself of gender critical views. That's not what's going on. You've made every attempt possible to do everything EXCEPT for sit and listen.

This is NOT a debate sub. This is NOT a place where you should look for sympathy for causes. You are NOT providing useful information, in fact-- you've basically just pulled the same meme bullshit of using suicide as a means of threatening your way into our spaces after you went to a singular shitty therapist. I don't know how much I buy into the bullshit of not meeting the DSM-5 criteria for depression, because that's not difficult criteria to meet. Your first line of actual medicine treatment was estrogen, instead of looking at any other reasonable option. And you know what? Your excited statement over growing breasts was frankly extremely fucking disturbing, thanks for that.

You would be welcomed with open arms at the debate sub, where you can post pseudoscience and look for validation until your heart's content.

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    [–]peakingatthemoment 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    If you want to debate, you should considering taking your conversation to the actual debate space at s/GCDebatesQT. This space isn’t for that.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Yep. You sure showed me. Enjoy your journey, have a good one, etc.

    [–]RationalNeutral 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Showing you up isn't actually the point though, this was an opportunity for you to demonstrate that the average person who subscribes to this ideology are calm, rational people, who have thought through their opinions well enough that it is clear this is an ideology worth debating.

    What you've demonstrated, instead, is this is just your version of "If we can convince ourselves we're better than this other minority group, then we don't have to admit we're at the bottom of the social hierarchy."

    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    I've responded to your question in calm ways, I've asked you questions in calm ways, I've watched your responses in increasingly irritated ways, and I gave you the verdict of being fed up with your shit in one of my final responses. Your part in the social hierarchy is one that you chose yourself. While you believe that transitioning ameliorates your symptoms, it is still something that you chose to do. Women are at the bottom of the social hierarchy between the sexes, no one is even arguing with you about that. For us it's not a fucking quest for persecution, it's just how it is.

    [–]RationalNeutral 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Indeed you have, others have not.