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[–]our_team_is_winning[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Men's Rights Movement in the 90s, fueled by porn. Got it. How are so many women on board with this????

I do wish there was a name other than "men's rights" because that sounds like custody battles in divorce cases. It's specifically Men's Sexual Fetish Demands isn't it. And I've got women telling me "it's who they are! Don't be a bigot. It's who they are!"

[–]censorshipment 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

I think the MRA movement started before the TRA movement. White men were seething about three movements happening back-to-back-to-back: civil rights ('60s), women's rights ('70s) and gay rights ('80s into '90s).

[–]MarkTwainiac 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it's unfair to make such sweeping statements about "white men seething" over those movements as though this were true of all white men. For all the white men who were seething over these movements as you say, there were plenty of white men who actively supported the civil rights, women's rights and gay rights movements.

A look at what actually happened in the past will show that the legislatures and courts that ended up passing, changing or striking down laws and policies to be less discriminatory to racial minorities, women and gay and lesbians were predominantly, indeed almost entirely, made up of men - and mostly white men at that.

Moreover, some white men were actively involved in the civil rights movement of the 1960s. IIRC, a few were brutally murdered as a result.

The gay rights movements of the 70s, 80s and 90s was predominantly a movement of led and populated by white men.

[–]MarkTwainiac 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think "male libertinism" is an accurate term for this movement.

Libertinism comes from the noun libertine, which means

a person, especially a man, who behaves without moral principles or a sense of responsibility, especially in sexual matters

[–]Kai_Decadence 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think the reason why so many women don't question it is because they're afraid to. A lot of women are socialized to put others before themselves. They are the nurturers and they are expected to put the feelings of others, especially men, over themselves and so when they hear these delusional men blubbering over their "oppression", that part of their socialization kicks in and makes them go into "Defend the poor victim" mode. But as we've seen, there is a limit to this and that's how many peak trans when they finally notice how their kindness is being taken advantage of.