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[–]Femaleisnthateful 20 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

Jesus. On one hand, I'm an accelerationist. Put the crazy front and center, so everyone can see it. We now have mainstream civil rights organizations denying the reality of biological sex.

On the other hand, they fudge their words in such a way that enough ignorant people might be misled into believing that what they're saying is scientifically accurate. Most people don't have a clue what 'trans' means, and they may assume it applies to a particular biologically defined class of people.

[–]our_team_is_winning 19 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm an accelerationist. Put the crazy front and center, so everyone can see it.

Did you see that South Park where Mr. Garrison (I think?) invents a bicycle where you have to stick the control up your ass? And people go along with it! That's where we are now, isn't it.

You can tell people "some women are accidentally born in a male body, so we have to butcher that body, put them on drugs for life, and then act like they're normal women because clearly they are because they say they 'feel' like women" -- and they nod, okay, fine, I get it.....

Sometimes I think the Elite sit around making up extreme stuff to dump on us just to win a bet. "Hey, I bet I can get the masses to....." and it's a contest to see how insane they can get and people will go along with it.

[–]BEB[S] 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I think that Biden's executive order, and the conservative media frenzy around it, put the crazy front and center.

I needed my overstretched, but very intelligent and fair, Progressive friends to wake up regarding how the T has hijacked LGB (being good liberals, they blindly support LGBT), and I think this sports issue, and the lies surrounding it by the ACLU, etc., might just do it.

[–]our_team_is_winning 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Do you think it woke them up (afraid to use that verb "wake" "woke" at all anymore!) or just cemented them more solidly to the myth of LGBTQ+? I find a lot of people will automatically agree with "their" party no matter what -- they put party over principle.

I'm afraid that the hateful division in the USA is so strong that people would swear up and down water was dry and the sun was cold if conservatives said water was wet and the sun hot.

[–]BEB[S] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Most of my friends are older, so when I explain the whole gender ideology thing to them they get it. They remember when women in the US didn't have some basic human rights, whereas many younger women don't grasp what's at stake.

[–]Rationalmind 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

2+2=4, but yea, the Party sycophants say 2+2=5.

[–]aloris342 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think this is true. I see a lot of scientific misinformation being presented as fact, by people who have no scientific background. They seem to be imbibing and then regurgitating standard talking points without understanding those talking points and without realizing that they are being misled. I think this is partly because our societal discourse tends, for some reason, to work along principles of soundbites: easy to ingest, not very meaningful. For example "Transwomen are women." That's easy. Most people do not realize it means nothing. Or, "Girl brain in a boy body." That makes no sense but people with a high school level of biology do not understand this. People fall for the "but a woman who had a hysterectomy is a woman so why can't a transwoman be a woman eleventy one" and, again, I think this is because it's easy to grasp this argument (even though the argument is fundamentally flawed). It is difficult to explain to the average voter that even though sex determination is indeed complex, that it is still true that there are two separate developmental pathways (male and female), and that it is possible to determine which pathway a particular person's body follows.

I know a number of parents of daughters, who (the parents) are completely on board with TWAW and I think the combination of the difficulty of explaining scientific reality, along with ideological loyalty to the idea that progressives always have your best interests at heart, is at work here.

[–]BEB[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In the US, there's been a deliberate dumbing down of educational standards. Originally mostly due to the Republicans, but now the Democrats and their allies are bombarding kids with gender ideology from before Kindergarten.

The gender lobby is fully taking advantage of this.

[–]MarkTwainiac 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The ACLU has been saying this sort of stuff for several years, just not as publicly. But it's all there in the court briefs they've filed on behalf of TIMs participating in female sports, getting placed in or transferred to women's prisons/jails, and having access to spaces, programs and services meant for female people.

It used to be only Chase Strangio of the ACLU who was saying this sort of stuff on Twitter, but now this nonsense is being spouted from the official ACLU Twitter.

I hope your first point is what holds true. Coz it breaks a cardinal rule of these pernicious stealth movements: don't say the quiet part out loud.

[–]Rationalmind 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The ACLU lost its way several years ago. They are really just ripping off the bandaid at this point.

[–]jet199 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They didn't lose their way, they got bought out.

[–]WildApples 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Someone needs to do a serious investigative report on this. There must be many old guard and true believers of civil liberties who fled the organization in recent years or are still there in hopes of righting the ship's path.

[–]BEB[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Here's a woman who resigned from the ACLU because of gender ideology. Don't know the credibility of this source, but it seems to be sticking to the facts:

"The African-American leaders of that Georgia state chapter of the ACLU has resigned, citing her own daughters’ “frightened” reaction to biological males using the women’s restroom. The “hierarchy of rights” the ACLU chooses to defend or ignore, she wrote, is “based on who is funding the organization’s lobbying activities.”

Edited to take out potentially unsafe link and add this one:

https://lawandcrime.com/important/aclu-leader-resigns-in-protest-after-daughters-scared-by-transwomen-in-restroom/