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[–]HOWABOUTNO 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (5 children)

"Intersex" people should be gotten rid of. I'd rather be so-called "intersexphobic" than walk on eggshells around a bunch of disorders.

CAIS are males and should have a separate "disordered male" space for themselves if they are not comfortable in male spaces. They don't get to be claimed to be female, socially or whatever, because they are not female and have no place in female spaces.

If you're CAIS, and claim to be female, you are deceiving yourself and everyone else.

If I controlled society, noone would be able to claim CAIS are female. To claim that would result in imprisonment. Thou shalt not deceive in the name of disorders. Everyone from an early age would be under experiments to make sure they have no DSDs. If they have DSDs, say CAIS, they would be treated as the sex they are, not the sex they and those around them falsely think they are.

The experiments are necessary, no matter how so-called "invasive" they may be. Anything to figure the truth out.

[–]ColoredTwice 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Wow, are you calling there to murder me? Almost all of 40 DSD conditions are requiring medical treatment and help. In my condition - I need to take adrenal hormones daily, or I will die. Removing category for my disorder makes no sense and it will kill girls with it (boys can survive in most cases). Historically it was the case - girls were receiving boys treatmen and dying, while boys surviving.

If you're CAIS, and claim to be female, you are deceiving yourself and everyone else.

Looks like you have no idea about DSD conditions. There are 40 different conditions.CAIS is just one of them, most people with CAIS do not know they have it until very late in life, as they look completely like females (they have vulvas and breasts, female skeletal structure) and have similar health complications, excluding ones connected with reproductive system. So your ideas would not work, unless to find 10 people in whole UK we will be testing everyone with extra invasive tests. This makes no sense at all - so many extra expenses for...for what exactly? Because you hate people with CAIS for some reason? And why hating them exactly? They are one of the most rare conditions among DSD's. Even more rare than mine SW CAH.

imprisonment

Lol. That's pretty dictatorship and 100% like TRA are wanting society to be.

on eggshells

Just shows how you are ignorant.

You would not need to be on the eggshells - because you would not even know if someone have CAIS. Starting from time in womb, they were going female phenotype. So they look exactly like any other female - even when naked, as they have vulva, vaginal openning, and in most cases even clitoris-like semi-functional structure. So unless they tell you - you would not ever know. Hell, they don't know it themselves until late in life in most cases.

[–]HOWABOUTNO 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

CAIS is just one of them, most people with CAIS do not know they have it until very late in life, as they look completely like females (they have vulvas and breasts, female skeletal structure) and have similar health complications, excluding ones connected with reproductive system.

CAIS are disordered males that "pass as" women on the outside. Although they "pass as" women on the outside, they have no female sex organs on the inside. They have no uteruses, ovaries, etc. They have testes, which means their body was supposed to support sperm, and it failed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_androgen_insensitivity_syndrome#Physical

The gonads [in CAIS] are not ovaries, but instead, are testes; during the embryonic stage of development, testes form in an androgen-independent process that occurs due to the influence of the SRY gene on the Y chromosome.

Immature sperm cells in the testes do not mature past an early stage, as sensitivity to androgens is required in order for spermatogenesis to complete

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/androgen-insensitivity-syndrome/symptoms/

CAIS do not have a womb or ovaries

CAIS would know they are not women at puberty. Women get periods. CAIS can not get periods because they have no female sex organ.

Just because their disordered male bodies make people think they are women, doesn't make them women. A woman is not boobies and "passing as" a woman.

Stop with the TRA nonsense.

That's pretty dictatorship and 100% like TRA are wanting society to be.

You: "imprisonment = eww because TRAs want society to be that way".

Give me a break.

like TRA are wanting society to be.

Looks like TRAS got one thing right: imprisonment. They sadly failed, and instead of throwing in prison the people that claim CAIS are women, when they aren't, they throw in prison the people that stand up for the truth.

No matter how "invasive" the tests may be, it's best to run them on everyone to make sure they have no DSDs. If they happen to have DSDs, depending on each case, they will be taught what their sex is.

And if they are too disordered, like CAIS, they will be gotten rid of.

[–]ColoredTwice 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Spend hundreds of millions of dollars to test billion people to find a dozen "wrong" people and put them in prisons? This sounds very unreasonable, insane and vindicative.

And if they are too disordered, like CAIS, they will be gotten rid of

You realize that you are advocating for albeistic fascism?

[–]HOWABOUTNO 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

You realize that you are advocating for albeistic fascism?

The only kind of "ableism" I have no issue with

Spend hundreds of millions of dollars to test billion people to find a dozen "wrong" people and put them in prisons? This sounds very unreasonable, insane and vindicative.

Anything to know whether or not someone has a DSD

[–]ColoredTwice 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's what I am saying about overblown reaction and hateful albeism. Prisons for them and doctors treating them? And spend a lot of money, time, resources for no real reason, except you personally knowing that those 10 people in whole country are diagnosed 30 years earlier than they otherwise would. CAIS is not life-threatening, so there no hurry needed. Because of complete insensitivity to testosterone, they would be weaker than most other females as well. All those money and time could be rather spend on reasearching female-specific diseases and female-specific healthcare - as those are underfunded and underresearched. Even 1/10th of needed money on detecting DSD conditions in everyone would be already more than governments are spending on female health related researches.