Thanks for the clarification. I looked up everyone I named to make sure, but I guess I am confused by the new standards. In my view, actions speak louder than words, so women who exclusively date other women (in adulthood - dalliances in youth don't count) are lesbians, whether or not they "identify as" or publicly come out and announce to the world they are lesbians. The behavior is the defining characteristic, not the adoption of the label. This seems especially the case for women in entertainment, where there's so much pressure to carefully manage one's public image and try to manipulate/control public perception. It's like Liberace - he publicly denied he was gay his whole life, even winning a major libel suit against a British tabloid for suggesting he was gay. And for years he claimed he was engaged to marry Sonja Henie. But no matter what Liberace said, and no matter how often he was seen out on the town, in publicity photos or in films with women on his arm or in his arms, the man was still 100% gay.