Suddenly it’s like their lesbianism never existed :(

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[–]yousaythosethings 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Sarah Paulson calls women/lesbians TERFs. Hardly a role model. I don’t think Tracy Chapman has officially come out of the closet so even she doesn’t want to be a lesbian role model. It’s also already been pointed out that some others you mentioned are not lesbians.

[–]MarkTwainiac 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

El Page called women TERFs when she was still calling herself a lesbian, but it seems she only stopped being a lesbian icon and role model recently after she announced she's "trans." If calling women TERFs didn't disqualify Page from being a role model, how come it disqualifies Paulson? Not a rhetorical question. I'm legitimately interested in knowing what explains the double standard.

https://www.gaytimes.co.uk/originals/ellen-page-on-why-she-isnt-here-for-your-anti-lgbtq-religious-bullsht/

BTW, I think both women stink for calling other women TERFs and drinking the trans kool-aid, but I don't get why Page was allowed to use the T slur - and also permitted to say a lot of other awful stuff, like calling people who doubted Jussie Smollet's story racists and homophobes - without having her "lesbian idol" status tarnished.

Re Tracy Chapman: the key is what is meant by "officially" coming out. Chapman is someone who grew up before the era of social media, and is a private person. Prior to social media, coming out meant telling your friends, family and perhaps work colleagues and some neighbors you were especially close to. Some celebs have might come out in a press interview, but many kept their personal lives more private. In the absence of FB, Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, nobody took out notices in newspapers, bought radio or TV time to tell the world, sent mass mailings, posted "guess what, I'm gay!" announcements on bulletin boards at work or school.

[–]yousaythosethings 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Two things: I have been calling out Ellen Page for a while on her anti-women and anti-lesbian actions so she hasn’t been a role model to me personally in recent times. For example when she contributed to getting a lesbian bad in Japan shut down. I’m giving you my perspective on who is available as a role model and Ellen was not a role model to me until Elliot happened. I knew about the stuff with Page before the stuff with Sarah. I can’t respect the celesbians who betray women and lesbians in that way.

Second, I’m a fan of Tracy Chapman and her music but I think she’s made it pretty clear she doesn’t want to address her sexual orientation even though she was outed by ex-girlfriends. We can obviously look up to her but you must admit that it’s odd to have to rely on a lesbian role model who hasn’t admitted to being a lesbian and doesn’t talk about it. She could be bisexual for all we know. Nothing wrong with that but someone being able to communicate and publicize issues that are unique to being a lesbian would be a nice thing to have in a role model.

[–]grixit 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Heh. Before the Internet, coming out as gay was a comedy theme, with the protagonist having to approach or phone people one at a time and then being disappointed at the lack of reaction.