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[–]MarkTwainiac 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Also, the NHS in the UK does not provide, nor does any private or government insurance in the US cover, breast reduction surgery in "ordinary" girls and women if it's done for appearance only. Patients must have proven, otherwise untreatable physical, functional health damage from having very large, heavy breasts to get a breast reduction paid for by the NHS and US insurance - and it usually takes years - sometimes decades - of pleading and trying various other therapies and jumping through hoops to get approved finally.

But girls and women with "gender dysphoria" who claim to be "trans" - or now increasingly "non-binary" or "masc" -can get their breasts entirely removed courtesy of the NHS and US private and government health plans. In the UK, a patient has to be 18 for double mastectomy for "gender dysphoria," but in the USA "gender dysphoric" girls as young as 13, 14 and 15 are now having their breasts removed entirely - all paid for by insurance plans. Yet as we know, girls and women with "gender dysphoria" want to get rid of their breasts so they no longer look demonstrably female - it's all about improving/changing their appearance in their own eyes and the eyes of others.

The NHS's page on treatments for gender dysphoria says:

Some people may decide to have surgery to permanently alter body parts associated with their biological sex.

Surgery for trans men

Common chest procedures for trans men (trans-masculine people) include:

removal of both breasts (bilateral mastectomy) and associated chest reconstruction nipple repositioning dermal implant and tattoo

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/gender-dysphoria/treatment/

[–]our_team_is_winning 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No doctor should be cutting off healthy body parts. Mutilation isn't healing. I had a friend as a teen who had to have breast reduction surgery. The back pain was killing her all the time. I'd say she was covered by her parents' insurance at the time (I didn't ask), but during Europe's insane "witch" hunts they would cut off women's breasts sometimes. All about humilliating and torturing women. Painful to see women with such internalized misogyny and doctors willing to induldge it.

[–]MarkTwainiac 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

during Europe's insane "witch" hunts they would cut off women's breasts sometimes.

Sadly, this didn't just happen in Europe during the period when so-called witches were hunted and persecuted. Women's breasts have also been cut off by men during various genocides and the mass-rapes committed by invading, conquering soldiers during wartime many places on earth. What the Japanese imperial soldiers did in Nanjing China in 1937 is a well-known example.

Note how the following excerpt - from Newsweek in 1997, when Newsweek was still a print magazine and a legit news source - says this is an example of humankind's cruelty when in this case it would have been far more accurate to say it's an example of men's cruelty:

The chronicle of humankind's cruelty is a long and sorry tale. But if it is true that even in such horror tales there are degrees of ruthlessness, then few atrocities can compare in intensity and scale to the rape of Nanking during World War II.

The broad details of the rape are, except among the Japanese, not in dispute. In November 1937, after their successful invasion of Shanghai, the Japanese launched a massive attack on the newly established capital of the Republic of China (Nanking back then in Anglo parlance, now Nanjing).

When the city fell on December 13, 1937, Japanese soldiers began an orgy of cruelty seldom if ever matched in world history. Tens of thousands of young men were rounded up and herded to the outer areas of the city, where they were mowed down by machine guns, used for bayonet practice, or soaked with gasoline and burned alive. By the end of the massacre an estimated 260,000 to 350,000 Chinese had been killed.

Between 20,000 and 80,000 Chinese women were raped --and many soldiers went beyond rape to disembowel women, slice off their breasts, nail them alive to walls.

So brutal were the Japanese in Nanking that even the Nazis in the city were shocked. John Rabe, a German businessman who led the local Nazi party, joined other foreigners in working tirelessly to save the innocent from slaughter by creating a safety zone where some 250,000 civilians found shelter.

https://www.newsweek.com/exposing-rape-nanking-170890

[–]MezozoicGay 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Japan is still paying reparation money to Korea for what they have done with korean women during WW2.