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[–]MarkTwainiac 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Thanks, Kai. I appreciate your kind words. And am glad to know that ideas I share are of value to others. It's in the hopes that they will be of use that I bother to post. My views are considered too "TERFy" for me to get published in the press any more as I once was, but here I hope they will reach at least a few people like you who might share them with others down the line in turn.

It's interesting that you work in a gym. Does it have big mirrors all over the place so that gym users and staff are constantly confronted with their own reflections?

In case you're interested, it used to be that gyms didn't have any mirrors. Only dance studios did. If you do a google image search of "gyms in the 1950s" and "gyms in the 1960s" you can see the environments people customarily used to work out in are very different to today. So it's no wonder that anxiety over appearance and not feeling attractive is on the rise even amongst young people who are physically fit and probably quite attractive in actuality.

On personal note, I was fortunate enough to be quite attractive in my youth, and to have been raised to believe my brains and other attributes were more important than my looks, but even so as a teen girl and young woman I still often felt ugly and gross, worried that I was too fat, and basically wasted a huge amount of time and energy in my youth obsessing over my appearance and thinking that if only I could lose 10 pounds or fix this or that about my appearance, then my life would be so much better and I would be really happy, finally. Magical thinking. Most every teen girl and young woman I knew did the same thing. It's such a waste of female psychic energy and potential. Even though so many of us outgrow our preoccupation with our looks as well as a lot our dissatisfaction in time, many find it never entirely goes away - shadows linger and sometimes dormant issues crop up again.

BTW, mirrors in gyms only started to become widespread in the 1970s and especially the 80s, when a lot of dance-inspired ways of working out became common, such as jazzercize and aerobics. Places that specialized in those sorts of workouts borrowed their decor from dance studios, not from the old-school gymnasiums at YMCAs, rec centers or schools. Also, it was in the 70s that the technology for making large plate glass mirrors really improved so that sheets of mirror glass became relatively cheap - and thus after the 1970s, mirror glass began to proliferate everywhere, including on the faces of large buildings.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well your topic contributions are vastly appreciated. To answer your question, yeah the gym I work at does have a lot mirrors and that was interesting to learn about how gyms were set up back then.

[–]kwallio 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What you said about gyms was kind of interesting, I thought that the purpose of mirrors in gyms was to check your form. My gym is currently closed due to covid, but it only has a mirror on half of the mat area, the other have is just plain wall so I usually stick to that side.

[–]MarkTwainiac 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I thought that the purpose of mirrors in gyms was to check your form.

Used to be, people relied on spotters, instructors, coaches and workout partners to check their form. The way it's still done in old-style boxing gyms.

Similar thing used to be the case when it came to dressing, grooming and bathing. In the old days, people relied on servants such a valets or ladies maids or family members to assist them with these tasks and tell them they looked good, and they often groomed and bathed in social settings - as in communal baths and the tradition of the "reception toilet," similar to going to a beauty salon or barber shop today only it was done in people's homes.

Even after glass mirrors were invented in the Renaissance, for centuries they remained precious, extremely costly and tiny - only big enough to show the face/head, or part of it; and coz indoor lighting was dim, people mainly relied on other people to serve as their mirrors. Also, a lot of clothing - especially the clothing worn by well-off women - customarily required help getting into and lacing or buttoning up the back, so dressing alone like we often do today wasn't an option.