Ellen Page is claiming to be transgender. What is going on?!

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[–]MarkTwainiac 33 insightful - 1 fun33 insightful - 0 fun34 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

She always struck me as a young woman who looked and sounded pretty much like a zillion other women of all sexual orientations. Beyond her being an out lesbian, for which I wholeheartedly supported her, there was nothing that ever seemed particularly "gender non-conforming" about her look or affect that I noticed. But then I'm of the Annie Lennox generation, so I confess I don't really get all this current hyper-focus on gender presentation.

[–]Sistersovermisters 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I don't know, maybe as a personal experience and how I viewed her, she was definitely not very feminine by my standards, or in my family (when they would watch movies with her, they would comment on it often). And I totally understand where you are coming from with the Annie Lennox generation! I really wish it wasn't a big deal.....I really do.

Like, to me, it felt as if Ellen Paige wasn't making it a huge deal, which made me feel great for just dressing however and it not being a big deal at all. I think I've been essentially nudged into being concerned about gender presentation due to familial standards and whatnot. When in all-honesty, I just wanted to normalize just being comfortable with myself. (Edited a small detail on my original comment, hopefully that helps a little!)

[–]just_lesbian_things 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

she was definitely not very feminine by my standards

How so? What's not feminine about her? I'm genuinely curious.

[–]Sistersovermisters 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I am so tired, I honestly don't know exactly what to say. She just never stood out as someone who was feminine to me. Obviously, she portrayed a very feminine (or should I say, woman-dependent role due to the case of the pregnancy situation) role in Juno, and along side that, was able to provide other female leads. So it's not to say she wasn't feminine at all. I guess she stood out to me as part of the GNC crowd, or really a part of the concerned about appearance crowd, until this happened.

[–]just_lesbian_things 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I guess she stood out to me as part of the GNC crowd, or really a part of the concerned about appearance crowd

You haven't said why you view her as part of the GNC crowd, though. Your entire comment was talking about how she actually plays fairly feminine characters.

I don't characterize anyone who works in entertainment, least of all those in who stand in front of the camera, as unconcerned about appearances. I think it comes with the job.

[–]Sistersovermisters 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I guess, if I can try to word this any better (since it seems I'm not wording things right at all), I've seen a few con panels and interviews, along with a few social media posts, and that is probably how she came across as GNC to me. I might have seen just enough appearances outside of movies to have that kind of perception about how she was in terms of gender non-conformity. I believe the part of where I felt she was more GNC-learning was how she carried herself a certain way, I don't really know how else to describe it beyond her not being incredibly concerned about looks or presenting around people.

I hope this elaboration helps a little more.