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[–]madcow-5 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

That's why religious conservatives want to trans their gay kids.

lol, what?

[–]yousaythosethings 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Not that you’re here in good faith, but here’s an article about the Tavistock Clinic. And I should use more “inclusive” language, it’s homophobic parents whether they’re religious, conservative, or woke. I don’t like ascribing sexual orientation to kids but many parents are uncomfortable with having a gender-conforming child who they believe is likely to be gay. It’s evident in so many of the parents of the most famous “trans kids“: Susie Greene of Mermaids and the parents of Jazz Jennings and Kai Shippley. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/it-feels-like-conversion-therapy-for-gay-children-say-clinicians-pvsckdvq2

[–]madcow-5 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I'm not sold. It seems much more about attention and pats on the back for the parent, and/or sexual grooming.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are some cases where what you're saying is what's going on, but not remotely enough to say " religious conservatives want to trans their gay kids". I guarantee you the vast majority of religious conservatives would rather their kids be gay than trans.

[–]yousaythosethings 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I did not say nor did I intend to imply that the vast majority do. Just that a non-negligible amount of homophobic conservatives have found transsexualism as a workable solution to the “gay problem.” I mention religiousness because because in the church I grew up in, transsexualism was not and is not the boogeyman they homosexuality was and remains. And in Muslim countries, transsexualism is actually seen as a cure for gay men including in Iran and Pakistan. There are places where gay people can get married if one of them legally changes their sex. Greece is like that now. The UK was like that from 2004-2014.

[–]madcow-5 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

a non-negligible amount of homophobic conservatives have found transsexualism as a workable solution to the “gay problem.”

This is serious delusion.

Also, nobody cares about muslims.

[–]yousaythosethings 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

“I don’t care, so it’s not true.”

[–]madcow-5 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

No, what you said about conservatives isn't true.

Conservatives are not pro trans.

[–]diapason 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

In my experience they are much less opposed to trans than to gay