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[–]materialrealityplz 23 insightful - 8 fun23 insightful - 7 fun24 insightful - 8 fun -  (13 children)

I mean... it wasn't really much of a vote. Trump might not have done that particular thing, but on everything else he's a disaster. He was hurting women on all sorts of issues. Like his mishandling of the pandemic - that affects everyone. Women are nurses and doctors caring for those affected, and having people they love die, or get sick themselves. If I was American, I would have voted for Biden too.

[–]Finnegan7921 21 insightful - 6 fun21 insightful - 5 fun22 insightful - 6 fun -  (9 children)

That is such a crap argument.... look at the countries in Europe that locked down far harder than the US. Guess what they're dealing with right now...? the second wave and they are contemplating locking down again. They came out of lockdown and it popped right back up. You cannot lockdown your way out of this virus, it isn't possible. There isn't anything he could have done. He couldn't order a national lockdown, he couldn't mandate masks nationwide, etc. That's just not how our government works. Also, Governor Cuomo of NY is lauded as some sort of hero by the media, despite multiple decisions which led to thousands of unnecessary deaths, but he is in the right party so he gets an absolute pass and a book deal. Biden has zero plan to handle it, none b/c at this point there is no plan, it just has to run its course with people masking up and doing what they can to prevent themselves from catching it. Notice how NONE of the various celebrations after he was "declared" the winner were described as superspreader events, yet every Trump rally was cited as the epicenter of a new epidemic ? Same thing for every BLM / antifa "peaceful protest" where buildings just happened to get looted and mysteriously catch fire. Those were totally fine, I guess you had to have a negative test to get into the riot zone. /s. What Biden does have is a compliant media, which will instantly take the case numbers and death tolls off the screens the minute he is sworn in and covid will cease to be the main story, day in, day out. just you watch.

As for hurting women, the Equality Act will hurt women in the long run far more than anything Trump would have done b/c it ERASES women as a protected class and the Democrats are all aboard the Woke Express, full steam ahead. They don't give two shits how many women get assaulted in bathrooms so long as the Clymers of the world have their feelz protected.

[–]Rationalmind 13 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Seriously, the left is a major threat to women’s rights. It’s really scary. I hate to be the person that says may Biden be blocked from office, but I am far more afraid of my side when it’s a rabid cult.

[–]MezozoicGay 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

is a compliant media

In Russia almost all media are speaking only how many people died to covid in Europe or USA, and never mentioning the situation in Russia itself.

[–]Finnegan7921 10 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, and that's what you'll get here, the minute Biden is sworn in. It will no longer be the top story. CNN will no longer be nothing but covid, all day, every day. The longer it drags on under him, the worse it would look and the media didn't spend four years trying to get Trump out just to turn on the guy they've propped up for months.

[–]Doe_aFemaleDeer 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

No, that’s patently false. All main news media broadcasters from Russia (which are easy to access both via satellite & via their online websites) are reporting DAILY the situation BOTH inside the country and internationally. For example, Channel 1’s website features daily reports & expert-panel discussions about the ebb-and-flow dynamics of local infection numbers, fatality numbers and convalescence numbers inside the country, with special reports from local hospitals and cities across the country, as well as discussions about mask-wear compliance dynamics in subway stations, shopping malls, etc.

[–]MezozoicGay 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I meant television mostly, all channels that are accessible here (on a border with Russia), are mostly speaking about situation outside and how badly it is done, only meantions of inside situation is when saying how good everything is, or reminders to wear masks. At least in the evening news, which I am checking time to time after work.

Their websites for some reason often less filled with propaganda (still having it, but just less of it), than broadcasts, especially non-russian versions of sites, which are almost completely different to original ones, some of them even have different sets of news for different languages.

[–]Doe_aFemaleDeer 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

ALL channels that are accessible here (on a border with Russia), are mostly speaking about situation outside […] ONLY meantions of inside situation is when saying how good everything is, or reminders to wear masks. At least in the evening news”

I don’t know what TV channels you’re watching, but the 2 main Russian TV channels (Channel 1 “Perviy” and Channel 2 “Rossiya”) provide sufficient essential coverage about the domestic situation regarding the pandemic.

In fact, especially during the lockdown months, that was their main news topic 24/7. And even now, post-lockdown, they continued hosting almost daily talk-shows with a whole range of medical experts & social commentators discussing the local situation from different angles (including even heated debates & mutual critique/arguments on those panels). The panels are hosted around breakfast-time GMT (lunchtime MSK time), but they’re available to view online anytime in catch-up TV mode (similar to BBC catch-up TV).

As for the morning, afternoon & evening news cycle - over the past ca. 7 months that I’ve been watching, the 2 main TV channels actually pretty much covered all the essential local pandemic information: (i) ongoing monitoring of daily variable increases or decreases in infection, fatality & convalescence cases (with visual graphs and commentary); (ii) local sanitising measures for public spaces; (iii) local mandatory social-distancing regulations for restaurants, theatres, museums, gyms, public transport, schools and universities (including distance-learning requirements); (iv) domestic flight and transportation restrictions; (v) discussions about the efficacy and affordability of different local anti-viral treatment; (vi) ongoing development of multiple local vaccines; etc, etc.

only meantions of inside situation is when saying how good everything is, or reminders to wear masks

No, there were plenty of Russian TV reports about various domestic challenges: (i) reports about outbreaks in various local regions (e.g. Tyumen region, Nenetsk district, Dagestan region, etc); (ii) the challenges faced by medical staff who do long shifts in hospitals; (iii) news coverage about some unfortunate tragedies, e.g. a ventilator machine in one of the hospitals malfunctioned and caught fire; (iv) TV coverage about bus passengers getting into arguments with each other because of mask non-compliance. Etc. They definitely did not present “only” a ‘rose-tinted’ view of “how good everything is”.

At the same time, there were obviously many positive reports: because, overall, the Russian universal healthcare system proved to be quite robust during this challenging year.

mostly speaking about situation outside and how BADLY it is done […] Their websites for some reason often less filled with propaganda (still having it, but just less of it)

Actually, Russian news reported in a quite positive light how well the situation was handled in the most efficient and proactive foreign countries (South Korea, Singapore, etc were referred to as “role model” examples because the citizens there acted very responsibly). Russian media was also mostly compassionate towards the plight of China (they didn’t onerously blame China like Fox News Channel sometimes does). Russian channels also acknowledged that even Sweden’s unconventional approach perhaps had some good merits (even though Sweden took a completely different, anti-lockdown approach compared to the rest of the world).

As for reports on “how badly it is done” in some other countries (like e.g. in Britain and the U.S.) - well, that’s simply an objective fact . It’s not “propaganda” if it’s (unfortunately) the actual basic truth. I’m usually resident in London - and Russian news were reporting everything more or less correctly about London. Even British news outlets agreed that the situation was indeed surprisingly mishandled (e.g. Londoners were advised to wash their hands to ward off the virus - but in the beginning there was suddenly no soap left in the shops!) and it didn’t help matters that the NHS has been in a deep deficit crisis for over a decade. So it’s not like Russian news were saying anything new or taboo - they simply repeated what British and U.S. media said.

Unfortunately, the fact is that many of the planet’s ‘leading’ countries were surprisingly ill-prepared for the pandemic (some developing countries surprisingly fared better than the developed ones). So I don’t think it’s wrong for Russian media to report on that and learn from other countries’ mistakes (as a cautionary tale). For example, they reported on the massive health crisis in Italy during the pandemic - but in a compassionate way, they weren’t celebrating the massive death toll in Italy.

Moreover, reporting on & comparing the health situation in foreign countries is VITAL during a Global pandemic - not only as a lesson about which approaches/methods work and which ones don’t, but also as an indication whether foreign travel to and from that country is safe or not.

broadcasts, especially non-russian versions of sites, which are almost completely different to original ones […] that are accessible here (on a border with Russia)

AFAIK, the official website of Channel 1 is only in Russian - they don’t seem to have “non-Russian versions” of the official website. (I’m fluent in Russian, my parents are from the border region as well, between Kazakhstan and Siberia, plus Russian is the 2nd official state language in Kazakhstan). And I checked - the hourly news that Channel 1 posts on their official website is the exact same as I get via satellite TV.

For online access to Channels 1 and 2 from abroad, I usually simply use VPN to access the official website or 3rd-party streaming services. Same as I do for U.S. channels which are often region-blocked for those living in Europe & Asia.

[–]redditbegay 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's almost like the reverse situation of what it is here - none of the outlets are calling out Gov's sending covid patients into nursing homes and killing them - only criticising Trumpf for not knowing that Pearl Harbor was happening AHEAD OF TIME!!

[–]redditbegay 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

As for hurting women, the Equality Act will hurt women in the long run far more than anything Trump would have done b/c it ERASES women as a protected class and the Democrats are all aboard the Woke Express, full steam ahead. They don't give two shits how many women get assaulted in bathrooms so long as the Clymers of the world have their feelz protected.

To add to this, the same democrats who said We "Believe all women" said that Tara Reid wasn't raped by Joe. I 'Believe in the process' - That was said by one of the female leaders of the Democrat party.

Kamala said she believed Tara - until she was asked to be part of her rapists' campaign.

Tara's verbal account, if you haven't heard her talk about it on MSM.

[–]Finnegan7921 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The funny thing is that they are so fraudulent, yet get a free pass b/c they are in the correct party. Harris accused Biden of being a)racist, and b) a sexual harasser, yet jumped at the chance to work with the guy ? She said "that's just politics", which means she either believed none of it, or believes it and couldn't give a shit b/c he was her ticket to a position she could not have gotten any other way, and he only chose her b/c he painted himself into a corner by promising a woman of color as his running mate.

When Joe dodders off into the sunset and she takes over, the media will gush over "FINALLY, A WOMAN PRESIDENT"....while ignoring the bookends of her career to this point...began as her boss' side piece, ends with riding the coattails of an old white guy......a victory for women everywhere.

the Tara Reade thing really took metoo out at the knees b/c there was a) no instant belief of the accusation, b) a concerted rush to defend the accused, c)media silence for the most part, and d) a determined campaign to discredit her. That is the exact opposite of what they did to Kavanaugh and Blasey Ford whose account was so absurd...and then they get mad that Kavanaugh got upset during the hearing after being dragged as a rapist for weeks on end. The left is becoming a farce with the blatant hypocrisy.

[–]redditbegay 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Like his mishandling of the pandemic - that affects everyone.

I'm going to point out that when he was implementing his controversial partial china travel ban, this is what the dem politicians were doing - "We want people to be concerned but we don't want them to be afraid" while sitting indoors at a press conference with tons of people surrounding - the same person who now wants lockdowns- while that comment sounds awfully like what Trumpf claimed he was doing, to boot!

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1314010919186436098

And after Biden implied that this chinese ban was 'xenophobic', at least one member of the twitterazi decided to spin it to look positive for biden, and this follows for almost every biden controversy, but that could be an entire nother post.

Will anyone argue that having a salon opened for you during a pandemic, and NOT wearing a mask is the way to prevent covid??

Shes one of the leaders of the party and she wont even follow HER OWN RULES in her damn city!!!!!! How is this any different than the "Covidiots" we are told about all across MSM? Is it that this is a political leader and they cover up for the same behavior????

The people who gaslit you into thinking the democrats (politicians) give a single solitary shit about any one of us are conspirATARDed corporate handmaidens, who have no purpose other than to fool the public about the real stakes that we're in.

And to add to that, we hear all about TRUMPF cutting the CDC that lead to this??? What we arent told about, is ALL OF president Obama's repeated attempts to cut funding for the CDC before that!!!!

Trump cutting the CDC was a talking point that biden repeated again and again, he was never "factchecked" by these hosts

(Here is how the Trumpf gets factchecked, instead of a straight rating, they make it overly wordly.)

The truth about the parties is, one SAYS they care about womens rights, and does little to nothing, while one doesnt, and does little to nothing.

But, ONE of these parties has more money to spend on PR (Hillary's campaign spent .8b in 2016. That could have fixed [flint 3 times over]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1F3pImyGAY))

And I still won't forget about Tara, even though the entire party seems inclined to all but erase her experiences with Joe, (and Kamala herself said "she believed Tara"... but I guess she only believed Tara while she was on the debate stage - and THAT today, is what modern liberalism is.


Separate youtube link in case the hyper doesn't work- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1F3pImyGAY

Added thoughts -

are nurses and doctors caring for those affected, and having people they love die, or get sick themselves.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3927369 Place the blame where it belongs.

I would have voted for Biden too.

Then you are the problem if you would support him without calling out his misdeeds, Joe is a big reason why we had no masks left (besides China ordering it's people to stockpile them from every storefront)- Near the start of their first term, he and Pres. Obama spent most (I think it was over 3/4ths) of our national mask supply, and they NEVER REPLENISHED IT!!!!

And lets ignore that President Obama repeatedly TRIED to cut the budget of the CDC... but our media overlords won't let us talk about that, because winning for the dems is their only goal.

That's a PDF from the CDC showing the 13M cuts to Emerging and Infectious Diseases, STI/HIV prevention, and others, during Obama's presidency. Including defunding childhood vaccines for a total of 1b.

And funding for the CDC is ironically higher under Trumpf - for many reasons, even though Joe and other Democrats repeatedly claimed that Trumpf had "DEFUNDED" the CDC. -They did NOT get factcheck pushback from their interviewers- not Once.

+ the Trumpfler has also QUADRUPLED mask production in less than a year - you can't spin up factories overnight (as tesla's failed QC will show you) and not a single media outlet will tell us this fact.

That's all I'm typing on this for now- because this election was totally bullshit - it was stolen from the people, and if you cared about this world at all, you would have fought Bidenpfs horrible policies before the TV told you to vote for him, but it sounds like you're yet another Caffé Liberal. Turn off the Television, and go to sleep, while the man who arcitected the Iraq war kills ANOTHER 100,000 poor women and children who you don't care about because you still have your $5 lattè.