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[–]hermiona52 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I mean, you can say many things about Norway, but it's prison system is one of the best in the world. Following Wikipedia:

Norway has one of the lowest recidivism rate in the world, currently 20% within 2 years, with approximately 3,933 offenders in prison, and one of the lowest crime rates in the world.

And 21 years is maximum you can be sentenced to, but it can be extended a few years at a time if criminal doesn't show he or she was rehabilitated.

This comes from a Pole (we don't have that good prison system, not even close), but prison should never be about a revenge, not even about a justice I think (at least not entirely). It should mostly be about a rehabilitation of criminals and Norway is one of the best countries in that category.

[–]macaron 14 insightful - 5 fun14 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Those crime rates are about to skyrocket if misgendering becomes a crime, lmao

[–]Nosce_te_ipsum 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How do you rehabilitate someone who killed 77 people? You can't accidentally go around killing almost 100 people and not know any better because no one told you not to do it. I agree that prisons should aim for rehabilitation when possible, but there are some criminals that are beyond that and the best thing to do is to lock them away for the rest of their lives so that they don't hurt anybody else. I suspect you wouldn't be so forgiving if one of these criminals killed or harmed a person you loved only to be allowed to walk free after a couple of months of rehabilitation and writing some phony apology letters. Violent criminals (including rapists) tend to re-offend at pretty high rates and tend to also be very good liars who can convince trained therapists that they would never do it again.

And what would 3 years of rehabilitation look like for the horrible crime of misgendering? Forced re-education? Norway really fucked it up with this one.

[–]our_team_is_winning 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Rehabilitation sounds like something for a drug seller or a thief. Breivik murdered 77 people. He gets to turn his life around and get out after only serving 3 months per murder victim? 21 years max? The murder victim has been robbed of his or her ENTIRE LIFE. I don't understand why there's no death penalty. It shows how little these places value victims. It's all about the criminal. What more can we do for the murderer? In a country like Norway, apparently if you really want someone dead, why not do it? There won't be much punishment at all. I'm shocked they don't have more murders if there's such a light sentence for it.