In Norway, "misgendering" someone may soon be punishable with up to 3 years in prison. Even though it's easy to "misgender" because Norwegians can change their legal sex online. (And what about those speshal snowflakes the "gender-fluid"?)

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[–]our_team_is_winning 35 insightful - 19 fun35 insightful - 18 fun36 insightful - 19 fun -  (5 children)

How upper middle class and comfortable does one have to be to even find time for insanity like this?

A lot of us are struggling right now to pay any of the bills, and over in Norway, where as we learned you barely get any prison time for MURDER, they want to make this three years in prison???

Breivik got 21 years for murdering 77 right? So what's that, like 3 or 4 months per victim? Oh but I forgot, using the wrong pronoun literally kills the genderfluid.

Imagine shouting at the cops "Stand back! I'll call him HE. I'll do it. I'm going to call him HE if you come any closer!"

[–]BEB[S] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

LOL

[–]hermiona52 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I mean, you can say many things about Norway, but it's prison system is one of the best in the world. Following Wikipedia:

Norway has one of the lowest recidivism rate in the world, currently 20% within 2 years, with approximately 3,933 offenders in prison, and one of the lowest crime rates in the world.

And 21 years is maximum you can be sentenced to, but it can be extended a few years at a time if criminal doesn't show he or she was rehabilitated.

This comes from a Pole (we don't have that good prison system, not even close), but prison should never be about a revenge, not even about a justice I think (at least not entirely). It should mostly be about a rehabilitation of criminals and Norway is one of the best countries in that category.

[–]macaron 14 insightful - 5 fun14 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Those crime rates are about to skyrocket if misgendering becomes a crime, lmao

[–]Nosce_te_ipsum 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How do you rehabilitate someone who killed 77 people? You can't accidentally go around killing almost 100 people and not know any better because no one told you not to do it. I agree that prisons should aim for rehabilitation when possible, but there are some criminals that are beyond that and the best thing to do is to lock them away for the rest of their lives so that they don't hurt anybody else. I suspect you wouldn't be so forgiving if one of these criminals killed or harmed a person you loved only to be allowed to walk free after a couple of months of rehabilitation and writing some phony apology letters. Violent criminals (including rapists) tend to re-offend at pretty high rates and tend to also be very good liars who can convince trained therapists that they would never do it again.

And what would 3 years of rehabilitation look like for the horrible crime of misgendering? Forced re-education? Norway really fucked it up with this one.

[–]our_team_is_winning 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Rehabilitation sounds like something for a drug seller or a thief. Breivik murdered 77 people. He gets to turn his life around and get out after only serving 3 months per murder victim? 21 years max? The murder victim has been robbed of his or her ENTIRE LIFE. I don't understand why there's no death penalty. It shows how little these places value victims. It's all about the criminal. What more can we do for the murderer? In a country like Norway, apparently if you really want someone dead, why not do it? There won't be much punishment at all. I'm shocked they don't have more murders if there's such a light sentence for it.

[–]Britishbulldog 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

... Meanwhile rape is defined by violence, not consent. So if you’re raped while you’re too drunk to resist, it’s not rape. But you go to prison for 3 years for misgendering. Yet another place I’m not setting foot in until women are actually treated like fucking humans!

[–]BEB[S] 24 insightful - 7 fun24 insightful - 6 fun25 insightful - 7 fun -  (3 children)

I am absolutely not kidding that we - GC women from every part of the world - should identify as men en masse, while not changing our appearance at all, and throw the world into chaos.

If that's what it takes...

[–]LasagnaRossa 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I mean, what does even "being a man" mean at this point? Yeah, I'm a man then. With a vagina, uterus, tits and all, but I'm a man.

My opinion now counts, it must do, I'm a man!

[–]BEB[S] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If the US passes the Equality Act I am absolutely going to claim I'm a man all over the place.

I think the only way to stop this madness is to alert average people, so when I use the men's bathroom in a store and get looks, I'll just say, "The US Equality Act allows me to call myself a man whenever I want, so I am a man right now. Deal with it."

So, yes, maybe we should plan some kind of international action where we all declare ourselves men, and let the stupid virtue-signaling shitheads nodding along to mandatory pronouns, etc., see what trans activism is really all about.

[–]Britishbulldog 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I like this. Just the chaos. Identify as men then sit and watch the world burn.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wow is that the situation in Norway? So many “progressive” countries are pretty shit about women—it was only a couple weeks or so back I learned that if you publicly accuse your rapist in Sweden you’ll be charged with libel or some shit? And of course doesn’t Denmark have legal prostitution...

Scandinavia is fucked.

[–]LasagnaRossa 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's always so obvious when laws are made by men lol

[–]BEB[S] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Amazing Norwegian feminists to follow on Twitter (lots of English in their tweets):

https://twitter.com/with_rowling

https://www.whrc.no/skriv-under-pa-erklaeringen/

https://twitter.com/TonjeGjevjon

https://twitter.com/_matriarken/status/1318550729146159110

https://twitter.com/DrMom2020

[–]BEB[S] 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Lest we forget, in California, Land of Enlightenment & Men in Women's Prisons, "misgendering" by a caregiver can lead to one year in jail and(or?) a $1000 fine.

The US has a First Amendment right to free speech, so this misgendering law would run afoul of that, but, nevertheless, the Crazy Cali legislators passed it and Governor Jerry Moon Beam Brown proudly signed it. Land of the Free and all that...

[–]macaron 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Insanity. Biological sex is obvious (with some exceptions of course). Gender identity is not, especially when you can basically identify as anything under the sun. People are gonna have to wear a big sign over their head announcing their pronouns so people don't commit such a heinous crime. :P

[–]CastleHoward 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think we are just going to have to watch them grind their faces into the dirt. It's a mass hysteria. I'm old enough to know that threatening to put people in prison for pronouns is tyranny. They are very bad and dangerous people.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So they're following the Canadian playbook of compelled speech. Yay marxism. /s

For anyone interested, here is one of Jordan Peterson's many discussions/speeches opposing these laws when they were introduced in Canada a few years back. *And if you want less screeching from triggered TIMs and TRAs, then here's his argument to the Canadian gov explaining why it's so dangerous to put compelled speech into law (this is the same hearing Meghan Murphy spoke at).

[–]questioningtw 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I am not a fan of Jordan Peterson at all, but I totally agree with him here. You can't force someone to call you by the pronouns you want.

[–]VioletRemi 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is just insanely stupid. And how anyone will know if someone is "xer" or "fae" or anything else? You can put in prison any opponent in debates or competitor in business like that :D

[–]questioningtw 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The ever loving hell? How can anyone eve be for this?