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[–]Omina_Sentenziosa 21 insightful - 3 fun21 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

You are absolutely not in the wrong. It makes no freaking sense to be up in arms about how pronouns should be sex based and about how TIMs shouldn' t be recognized as women and then making exceptions just because they are less bad than the regular TRA.

Blair White is a man. I know nothing about this Rose of Dawn person, but if he is a TIM he too is a man, and calling them men and "he" is perfectly acceptable and, as far as I am concerned, prefered. People who yell at you about it are just a brand of TRA, and I have stopped caring about being considered a bad person by individuals who think that womanhood is about plastic surgery/ stereotypes/what "ejaculators" say it is a long time ago. You just have to decide if you care about it or not. I have abandoned any kind of fucks I could have given when it comes to language and hurting feelings, so if it' s rude to call a man a man, then I guess I am rude. I can live with that.

I am not a fan of White anyway: he might be a little more reasonable than regular TRAs, but he reached his opinions through conservatism. Not to mention, whenever someone posts a video or a comment by him and I decide to watch it, the overwhelming feeling I get from them is that he is attacking lunatic TRAs because he is afraid that once society peaks, people like him are going to have it harder. In short, he' s more interested in himself than he is in logic and reason, and it wold be ok if he (and his groupies) at least admitted it, but for some reasons he' s considered a champion for women, children, LGBs, when the truth is that he is using those categories because he can use them to rise himself.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

What's more annoying with the situation I recently had was that my brother already knew where I stood on the whole trans ideology though I think he probably forgot because he thinks Blaire white is "true trans" and also because of Blaire White's infamous "debate" with Yaniv and he thinks that he was the one who exposed him and brought justice and when I told him that many women were talking about Yaniv way before Blaire had that livestream, he just disregarded what I said.

But anyway it's not like me calling him what he actually is is saying he's a bad person or something like that and that's what makes when people get pissy with me for not calling him by female pronouns bewildering. Oh and to answer your question, Rose of Dawn is another Trans-identified man who also speaks out against TRAs and I've seen people prop him on the pedestal they do for Blaire as well,

I have stopped caring about being considered a bad person by individuals who think that womanhood is about plastic surgery/ stereotypes/what "ejaculators" say it is a long time ago. You just have to decide if you care about it or not. I have abandoned any kind of fucks I could have given when it comes to language and hurting feelings, so if it' s rude to call a man a man, then I guess I am rude. I can live with that.

I really want to get to this place as well. To quote Mag, "I'd rather be rude than a fucking liar" and that definitely applies to this for sure. But I'm still kinda new to talking more openly about this and am not used to the backlash yet but I just gotta work on that. I guess my situation with my brother threw me off because I've already been dropped by many people who I thought were my friends when I came out in support for JK Rowling and Maya Forstater last year and while my social circle was always fairly small, it's almost nonexistent now and my brother was one of the few people I still talked with until this.

I am not a fan of White anyway: he might be a little more reasonable than regular TRAs, but he reached his opinions through conservatism. Not to mention, whenever someone posts a video or a comment by him and I decide to watch it, the overwhelming feeling I get from them is that he is attacking lunatic TRAs because he is afraid that once society peaks, people like him are going to have it harder. In short, he' s more interested in himself than he is in logic and reason, and it wold be ok if he (and his groupies) at least admitted it, but for some reasons he' s considered a champion for women, children, LGBs, when the truth is that he is using those categories because he can use them to rise himself.

EXACTLY. I'm so glad that I'm not the only one who sees what Blaire and the others like him are trying to pull by only going after crazy TRAs to make themselves look better and not be up for criticism. I mean isn't it ironic how they only ever really go after TRAs but when tit comes to "Terfs", they have nothing to say. I mean going back to Magdalen Berns, she was very vocal against trans ideology and you'd think that she would be up on the chopping block to get "put in her place" by these "logical" types like Blaire to prove that trans ideology is a solid ideology but they never did. And they can't say that it's because she wasn't well known because she certainly was.

In short I agree with everything you said. While he is reasonable compared to TRAs, it doesn't make him any more "valid" as a woman compared to the former and it's clear him and people like him are doing this as a diversion tactic to keep people from critiquing and questioning them.

[–]Omina_Sentenziosa 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

But anyway it's not like me calling him what he actually is is saying he's a bad person or something

For many of these gender ideologues, being misgendered is indeed worse than anything. I don' t know if you were around when they claimed that misgendering is literal violence, but it wasn' t an exaggeration for them, they base their entire being on that identity, so not respecting it is like "erasing and dehumanizing them". Of course it' s complete bullshit, but when you are so far gone that you think a penis is a female organ, then the sky is your limit!!!!

You can explain to them that you just do it in a neutral way as much as you have breath in your body, but they will always read it as the worst insult possible. I learned how to not care. You say you aim at the same mentality, you will get there. It took me a while as well, but at one point it just clicked that the only way I could have been "acceptable" for these people was to live my live on a constant cognitive dissonance status, that I should have stopped using my brain and eyes, that I should have just become a validation station. It was unacceptable, so I just naturally started not caring.

I can' t help you on the losing friends/relatives department: I never went through it thankfully, and I am a loner to begin with, so I think that if I found myself in a position in which my friends drop me for stating that males are not women, then I guess I would shrug and move on with my life. I totally understand how it can be hard for more social people, but my standard position is that if people drop you for something like that, it' s better to lose them than keeping them and spending your life pretending that you believe in something that makes no sense whatsoever. And slowly dying inside because you' re not able to speak your mind.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I remember the whole "Misgendering is violence" thing but only because I remember seeing that one video of the same phrase by Riley Dennis years ago and I thought he was being ridiculous. I didn't think people were actually serious about it though until I joined Twitter and noticed people getting all ansy with the pronouns. So I tried to avoid them and that was back when I was still drinking the Trans Kool-Aid lol.

And I'm trying to get to a point where I don't care if people get all pissy with me for not using "preferred pronouns", especially since I'm going to be putting my foot in the ring of Gender Criitical type videos on my YouTube channel soon. So I'm trying. And see that's the thing, I never really had a social life to begin with. Like I don't have any friends offline that I hang out with and I haven't for a decade now, most of my socialzing is online. It's just that I did have a few good online friends and they ended up dumping me when I came out in support of JK Rowling/Maya and I was not expecting it to happen to 5 out of 6 of them who abandoned me lol.

But anyway thanks for the comment, I'm gonna try to work on this and get to a point of not caring becaus at the end of the day "misgendering" is not violence and there's nothing hateful about speaking the truth (aka people cannot change sex and woman & man are not identities).

[–]MezozoicGay 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"Misgendering is violence"

Always reminds me this picture: https://i.imgur.com/Ac89Ybp.png (and I am ukrainian myself, born in USSR, and my grandparents starved to death during holodomor, I wasn't a direct witness of that, so this picture is pretty close to me)

With "Transgender saying that misgendering is violence" and "Gay man who survived dozen physical assaults" instead.

[–]Kai_Decadence[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lol that's a funny meme but yeah exactly.