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[–]our_team_is_winning 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

many HSTSs who aren't considered to have AGP still tend to fetishize the female body and some/many display an invasive, unsettling, prurient interest in prying and spying so they can see what real girls and women's bodies look like and get a sense of how real female bodies function.

Whoa! is that well-documented? Here's naive me thinking that the true HSTS are such "girly" gay men that yes it's gross they're in women's spaces, but they pose no threat to me. WRONG, eh!

[–]MarkTwainiac 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The fact that a good number of HSTS also have/are AGP has been documented by the sexologists going back several decades.

However, the idea that HSTSs who don't have a diagnosis of "autogynephilic gender dysphoria" still fetishize female the female body and some/many display a prurient interest in prying and spying on female people to see what our bodies are really like comes from their own writings and statements in the books and blogs they've written and numerous online forums. You don't have to look far to find TIMs going into incredible detail describing the ideal female genitalia they wish they had; their desires to menstruate, be pregnant and breastfeed, and their lurid fantasies about such processes; and all their boasting about how their bodies with all the surgeries and implants are much better compared to "cis" female bodies, which they know coz they've gone to great lengths to check out and study the bodies of "cis" girls and women in up-close and personal ways.

As Hannibal Lecter told Clarice Starling, men covet what they see - and once they start coveting, they want to see more (and often this goes beyond seeing and extends to smelling, listening to, tasting and wanting the skin off our backs). Coveting female bodies has nothing to do into which kind of body a male likes to stick his dick into. It's a sickness that transcends sexual orientation.