I know its been discussed before, but I need clarification again - why is Transgender so much different than someone saying they are Transracial? I understood before - gender is not biological, etc. but now with the blurring of biology within this ideology I am confused with this argument.

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[–]divingrightintowork 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I would give this a read, "In Defense of Transracialism," it showed up in Hypatia - https://cryptome.org/2017/05/in-defense-of-transracialism.pdf

And look up the reaction to it, much of it bullshit - TIMs saying things like "Rachel Dolezal can just wash her blackness off, I Can't wash off my transness," (clearly timmy never heard of 'boymode' ).

[–]BEB 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I absolutely agree that the TIM "argument" about not being able to "wash off their transness" is bullshit. More than bullshit it's DARVO

Because women, no matter how we dress, no matter how we change our appearance (unless we pass as men, which is pretty much never, even TIFs don't usually pass in person), can never identify out of our oppression. Neither can Black men.

Guess who can? Guess who can simply change their appearance and their "oppression" disappears?

What happened to the author of that piece "In Defense of Transracialism" is shameful - the academic pile on, Hypatia's reaction - whereas most normies would think that the piece was spot on - what is the difference between claiming to be a different sex versus claiming to be a different race? The former is based on hard science whereas race is truly based on perception.

It's Clown World now.

[–]anonymale 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

From the article:

I suggest that Dolezal offers an important opportunity for us to think seriously about how society should treat individuals who claim a strongly felt sense of identification with a certain race. When confronted with such an individual, how should we respond?

The Lakota nation declared war on them, after decades of their and other nations' polite requests to new agers and hippies to leave them alone went unheard. The resulting howls of narcissistic rage should be very familiar to GCers. (NAFPS stands for New Age Frauds and Plastic Shamans, a long-running project dedicated to documenting and combatting cultural appropriation).

[–]divingrightintowork 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The parallels are uncanny, that's for sure..

You could just as easily paint that as a bunch of Tim's mocking Vancouver rape relief shelter

[–]anonymale 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The para-esoteric Indianess of Plastic Shamanism creates a neocolonial miniature with multilayered implications. First and foremost, it is suggested that the passé Injun elder is incapable of forwarding their knowledge to the rest of the white world. Their former white trainee, once thoroughly briefed in Indian spirituality, represents the truly erudite expert to pass on wisdom. This rationale, once again, reinforces nature-culture dualisms. The Indian stays the doomed barbaric pet, the Indianized is the eloquent and sophisticated medium to the outer, white world. Silenced and visually annihilated like that, the Indian retreats to prehistory, while the Plastic Shaman can monopolize their culture.

Dagmar Wernitzig, Europe's Indians, University Press of America, 2007, cited in Wikipedia's article on plastic shamanism

[–]lunarenergy8[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I am actually working my way through it right now! Super interesting and definitely forcing me to think a lot and continue learning and I also wanted to get an idea of what people here think abou it. I have read so many backlashes to this article, and to transracial in general that are either just super weak (ie it sort of offends me as an individual so therefore its wrong) or are the exact same things we are saying and could apply to Transfolk.

[–]divingrightintowork 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jesse singal wrote a great response to it here -

Basically everything people say about it is dumb and wrong or they need to really decontextualize things, and obviously do not hold theirselves to the same standards

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/05/transracialism-article-controversy.html