Taken from MensLib: Beyond the genderbread person - The failures of biological sex

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[–]voi_che_sapete 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh my fucking Christ. Yes, of course biology is complicated, sex markers are complicated, blah blah blah. However, REPRODUCTION IS A GODDAMN BINARY, AND REPRODUCTION IS WHAT MATTERS HERE.

Reproduction is a brutal process that severely disadvantages women and led to patriarchy. You cannot get around the realities of roughly half the species reproducing in a way that physically incapacitates them for 9 months and was historically enormously dangerous.

Yes, women who can't get pregnant are still classed as women. Society still organizes them according to what they perceive to be their reproductive class, and socializes them accordingly. I don't care if they secretly have twelve testicles instead of ovaries. The determining factor is still reproduction.

Some people get pregnant. Some people impregnate. It's a goddamn binary. The gender binary that formed in the wake of that binary is entirely invented bullshit, but it all hearkens back to society organizing itself according to reproduction.

[–]inneedofspace 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I can't it's not just the video, it's the comments women too many women supporting nonsense and men who are most likely mras if you think sex is bullshit 1) You're privileged and 2) You've failed female trans gender people who refuse to use the word woman/girl to describe their experience with being a girl 2) you've failed all the girls and women in your life who rely on this language to protest their discrimination.

Instead of refuting this whole video I'll just say, I'm still waiting on the reveal of this third sex and will it make them happy to do away with sex when everyone's a zees and people are still treating zees with penises as men and zees with vaginas as walking incubators because we're all zees but why should you respect a small zee who bleeds and carries babies and marries, that's what happened centuries ago and it didn't remove the gendered body it reinforced it, man was gender neutral at least in english and it slowly came to mean men just men, shows you how sexist some societies can be later woman came along but is was synonymous with wife. This is still the case in some languages, who the hell started this "sex is non-binary" nonsense? Why are scientist agreeing with this?

[–]LasagnaRossa[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

who the hell started this "sex is non-binary" nonsense? Why are scientist agreeing with this?

I wonder if those who disagree with the ideology and raise questions are being silenced...

[–]inneedofspace 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's likely the youtuber deleted all comments disagreeing with them I just wish their wasn't a biologist in the comment section agreeing with them.

[–]justasking918273 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Made it to 6 min but...god...this pseudo intellectual rambling is awful. What is this stuff about "anatomical sex"? There's biological sex and that's it. Also, there's this usual assumption used by those defending transness and gender identity that, because certain characteristics which are dependent on biological sex are bimodally distributed, biological sex itself is bimodal, too, which is just simply WRONG. Sex is binary. That's it.

[–]sisterinsomnia 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There was just a very good article on that: https://uncommongroundmedia.com/sex-binary-response-sciencevets-sex-spectrum/

[–]justasking918273 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's also this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLH-y2nLocw which explains it really well.

[–]slushpilot 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Eye rolling begins pretty quick on this one. How is it that someone can deny things that are plainly obvious to everyone.

"The more you zoom in" "Newtonian mechanics has its limits"

Sure, ok. Schrodinger's woman. I get it.

These arguments are the worst kind of "well, ackshually" that try to put irrelevant and unimportant details front-and-center before everything that is simple and obvious for everyone else in the conversation.

To continue the analogy, E=mc2 has a limited domain in which it applies and is practically useful. We have lived for millennia and travelled around the world without it. At the human scale, it's not going to supplant v=d/t any time soon, which we see and use every day, every time we get in a car.