It's so funny to me that Reddit is claiming TERFs were brigading different women's subs (like r/PCOS and r/pregnancy) like there weren't radfems in those subs to begin with

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[–]Wrencer 36 insightful - 1 fun36 insightful - 0 fun37 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

Yesterday a woman on r/ActuallyLesbian was literally harassed for saying that she supports trans women but isn't attracted to them. Apparently it's not enough to support them, you have to fuck them, otherwise you're "transphobic"

[–]windrunner 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

That sub is a joke. It's surprising how many lesbians still have their eyes closed about what's going on. They really think they're being supportive and fighting transphobia and terfs. Lol. To them, I would advise to just disagree with something trans people say/do, and then see how they'll be treated.

[–]Wrencer 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

I don't get why TRA need to hijack r/ActuallyLesbian too. I mean, literally half of the content on r/actuallesbians (the biggest "lesbian" subreddit) is about "transbians".

That's why I'm glad r/LesbianActually exists. It's a little sub, but neutral. There it's allowed to say "I'm a lesbian but I'm repulsed by dicks" without having the TRA scream "transphobia !!" What's funny is that a lot of bi/lesbian women got cancelled on reddit, because even though you support trans ppl and agree that trans women are women, TRA will still go through your post history to call you an evil "terf". Because disagreeing with them, even on a minor issue, is not possible. It's like it's a cult.

[–]terfy_delight 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I don't get why TRA need to hijack r/ActuallyLesbian too.

The very existence of women and lesbians invalidate them, so like typical men who can't handle no, they have to erase all evidence of our existence. They can't help themselves and they'll only get worse, until everyone puts their foot down and puts them back in their place.

The ultimate validation to a TW is if a lesbian fucks them- that must mean they're a real woman. They have so much of their male entitlement and socialization, they never stop to think or care about how that hurts others.

[–]Wrencer 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I didn't think it was true, but what I witnessed today on reddit about "if you don't want to date trans women, that means you hate us" discourse, it's that it reeks of male entitlement. Even incelly behaviour dare I say.

[–]windrunner 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

they never stop to think or care about how that hurts others.

most are self-centered idiots. It's all about THEIR validation, THEIR existence, THEIR experience, THEIR struggles, about what THEY believe and how THEY self-identify or some bs like that

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

They have an agenda. They hate women.

[–]Wrencer 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

If they hate us so much, why do they want to date us so bad ? 😌 Just date another trans woman, since they're so brave and stunning, lol

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I find it really hilarious that some of them can't find men to date them. Strange, I'm almost 40 and I'm sure a lot of men won't date me, but I don't call them "bigots" and threaten to hit them because they don't find me attractive.

[–]Wrencer 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I've just read a thread on AskFeminists about a straight man refusing to date trans women. He said he still respects them and uses correct pronouns. Yet, he isn't sexually attracted to them. The irony is that he is considered transphobic, and some redditor even said that lesbians refusing to date men is prejudice too. Homophobia is now woke ™

Starting to think that intersectionality is just an excuse for men to hijack feminism, and take us wayyy back

[–]windrunner 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Lol. "You have to unlearn your internal bias, that's prejudice", "read THIS and go educate yourself", "it's not just a 'preference', it's discrimination and bigotry" and the combo "you have to unlearn your genital preferences"

[–]Wrencer 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"Homesexuality is an ancient word that no one uses anymore", "if you don't like girldick, you are a genitalia fetishist", "you refusing to date trans women stems from you not seeing them as real women", "there is more in relationships than sex" and "excluding a group of persons from your dating pool without knowing them is bigotry".

Basically, their reversed bigotry is the new woke

[–]windrunner 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

You said it all. What I think is more stupid than that are the people who are "allies" saying those things like sheeps. And they think this shit is ok lmao

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They want to steer the narrative.

[–]windrunner 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't get why TRA need to hijack r/ActuallyLesbian too.

Why, it's all in the name of "being inclusive". They can't let us have anything, even if said lesbians subs don't even mention trans people. They need to be the center of attention. Also, it's very telling the blatant homophobia from the alphabet community when statements such as "lesbians don't like dicks" and "gays don't like pussy" are considered 'controversial'. Since when was this controversial? Why are gays and lesbians being coerced to 'be open' to dating people with girldicks and whatever the fuck they call fake pussies because 'validation'. No matter how much you give them, they will always want more, while gaslighting and lying about 'not wanting more'.

[–]Chewedanddigested 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I remember first being introduced to gender critical feminism and being in complete agreement with the push back against gender essentialism but thinking everything else was going too far because I couldn’t imagine that liberal feminists and TRAs were actually saying all that crazy stuff. Like lesbians not wanting to date transwomen was transphobic. Or you don’t need dysphoria to be trans. Or sex isn’t real. Or “there’s debate about whether trans women were born male”. It sounded like strawmen that were too out there to be real.

It turns out that it’s all true though! In the last two weeks since the first reddit ban, I’ve seen multiple examples of every statement above, and not in fringe spaces either.

[–]Wrencer 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly, I've always said that I wasn't GC and that I was pro trans rights, but even acknowledging that trans women are women and that I wouldn't mind dating trans ppl don't change their opinions about me being a "terf". Because I post on true bisexuals, because I say that sex is real, that lesbians don't suck dick, that ppl not dating trans ppl is their CHOICE and should be respected.

They are literally getting rid of cis bi and lesbian women on LGBT online spaces. Because if you forgot to include trans folks in your post, you're a bigot or you are "obsessed with genitals" lol.

It's crazy that reddit stands for TRA, whereas they only make for 0,6% of the USA population

I also thought that trans women saying that not dating them is transphobic was a terf myth, yet I witnessed it today, and everyone disagreeing gets called a bigot and phobe, or ppl are tiptoeing around their precious feelings. It honestly reminded me of the behaviour of certain men irl.