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[–]sotired 29 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 0 fun30 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What reality do TiMs live in that they think everytime someone is slightly concerned about their unfair advantage in a women sports league that it's an attack on their right to exist?

Exactly! I was recently talking to a friend who's "on the fence" about this issue, and they were like "What do you think they should do instead? A separate category for them won't work out..." And I was so angry about the whole thing that I said "Why do they need to participate in competitive sports anyway?" and I was told that "They deserve rights too" and that I'm denying them rights.

Rights to what? Rights to participate in women's sports? If transgender people had attempted to create their own category, I would've supported them. But they've participated and won in women's sports for a long time now, violating our boundaries and being extremely unfair. Why should I do the mental labour of figuring out solutions for people who have no empathy for women? Why am I not allowed to show anger at the oppressors?

[–]salty-tomorrow 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

preach 🙌🏼 I hate the expectation that because women don’t want TiMs in our spaces, it’s our job to find other solutions for them. Also it’s not a human right to compete in sports lmao

[–]TheSeventhSense[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Great reply and a trans sports league is actually a compromise I reached with my friend about this but we both know TiMs and TRAs would never accept such a solution. They want everyone but them to do the heavy lifting for them and figure out how to fit them neatly into every faucet and aspect of society. Women are expected to sit back and watch their spaces be taken over and their voices silenced and TiMs just get to sit back and watch.

I wish more people (especially TRAs) thought about this more and tried to think of pragmatic solutions to things like the obvious advantage in sports leagues but instead of using their brains they rather just shame all dissenters and bully women into accepting whatever shit they spontaneously deem "human rights" for the day.