About the origins of the word "gender"

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[–]BiologyIsReal[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

This is just a joke isn’t it, snow?

I doubt it. This is his typical arguing style.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (22 children)

I’m gonna choose to believe it’s a bit because it’s really funny imo.

Half of America agrees with some guy because his YouTube video has a lot of views, also you girls need to listen to me because you’re all bad at feminism. Listen to the man speaking and let him correct you sweetie.

You couldn’t write that as dialogue for a sexist manager character on tv cause it would be too on the nose and he’s saying it of his own volition like it’s brilliant.
I love it.

[–]BiologyIsReal[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Oh, but Snow has that covered up already, you know? In his own words: [he] can't help being correct, or male. But my favorite is he saying there is no such thing as a (grammatical) neuter gender (that some languages do have besides the masculine and feminine) because there are languages that aren't gendered. I swear he will say anything before agreeing with a woman on something.

Edit: I just noticed your new flair xD

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It’s amazing and tbh I stole his comment for a new flair cause it’s such a perfectly typical ‘male feminist’ statement.

I mean, google brings up intercourse so we’re obviously all wrong about how we personally use a word.

[–]SnowAssMan 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Google search results is raw data that represents a consensus. Still waiting for the expert on evidence to finally supply some.

[–]SnowAssMan 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

This is like when TRAs say "agender" is a gender.

[–]BiologyIsReal[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

It's not. Pick up some grammar books and you'll understand why you're wrong. Or study a foreign language. German, maybe?

[–]SnowAssMan 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

In German the word for sex & gender is the same. Not a convenient language for your argument. If neutering your dog isn't a sex change then neuter gender is tantamount to saying agender i.e. lacking a gender.

[–]BiologyIsReal[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

What does neutering your dog have to do with grammar? Grammatical gender is not the same as sex. You're showing off how little you know about grammar, but keep it going. Here, grammatical gender in German and I only spent five minutes searching the Web:

https://grammar.collinsdictionary.com/german-easy-learning/gender

In German a noun can be masculine, feminine or neuter. Gender is quite unpredictable – the best thing is simply to learn each noun with its definite article, that is the word for the (der, die or das) which goes with it:

https://deutsch.lingolia.com/en/grammar/nouns-and-articles/gender

The gender of German nouns can be identified by the article they take; der for masculine, die for feminine and das for neuter.

https://mydailygerman.com/german-articles/

The German language has three genders. This means, that nouns are either masculine, feminine or neutral.

You're welcome.

[–]SnowAssMan 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Neuter means neither. "Neither gender" is not a gender, it's a lack of gender. It's like saying that "no apples" is an "amount of apples". It's not true, but you might say it in the context of talking about people with apples.

[–]BiologyIsReal[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Let's consult the Oxford Dictionary, shall we?

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/neuter_1?q=neuter

neuter adjective

(grammar)

​(in some languages) belonging to a class of nouns, pronouns, adjectives or verbs whose gender is not feminine or masculine

   The Polish word for ‘window’ is neuter.

I guess Polish is another language you could study if you don't like German.

It's okay, Snow. The neuter gender is a thing is grammar. You can admit you made a mistake. It will be easier that keep making easily refutable claims.

[–]SnowAssMan 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

See my previous reply. This is kind of like arguing that zero is a number just bc it's referred to as such for convenient's sake.

[–]SnowAssMan 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

YT views are not more relevant than the fact that Ben Shapiro is a household name in the US.

Male & female feminists alike have been own-gosling since they decided to "educate" everyone that "sex & gender are not the same thing", so I don't represent men, since men parrot Stoller's rubbish too.

[–]MarkTwainiac 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Male & female feminists alike have been own-gosling since they decided to "educate" everyone that "sex & gender are not the same thing"

I love the concept of "own-gosling" because I imagine it must have something to do with Ryan. Which reminds me: since Ryan is now a fully-grown up man, how come his name is still Gosling, not Goose?

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Lol ok mate. Everyone agrees with Ben Shapiro cause he’s sorta famous and nobody ever uses the word sex to mean anything other than intercourse. My vet asks for the animals gender every time cause you say so. You know better than all us silly women and are king of the feminists. Whatever you want as long as you’ll give it up.

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    [–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Pathetic is your reaction to women disagreeing with you. Days ago I started making efforts to disengage from conversation with you because you have been rude af and started the ad hominem the second you were disagreed with. You made a baseless accusation of emotional abuse against you and then cried about my manners, and repeatedly make demands as though you are owed any damn thing after behaving like an incorrigible ass.

    Move the fuck on. It seems you cannot see any more subtle attempts to end discussion with you so maybe you will get this.

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      [–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      You seem to have a serious problem with women who disagree with you. Since it’s too hard for you to understand anything less aggressive, fuck off and leave me alone.

      [–]SnowAssMan 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      You're the one having a tantrum over me asking you to support your claims. So it's pretty clear which of the two of us has a serious problem.

      [–]BiologyIsReal[S,M] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Okay, u/SnowAssMan and u/Houseplant, this conversation is not going nowhere, so stop it right now. Any further comment about who started it will be deleted. If you have a problem with previous comments report them.