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[–]circlingmyownvoid2[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (43 children)

Go ahead. Show everyone how I very much didn’t say that.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (42 children)

Fine I’ll end with this. It’s not about rape it’s about people. If you could let someone bleed out without calling 911, I fundamentally can’t understand your lack of respect for life.

You fundamentally cannot understand my lack of respect for someone who’s lack of respect led them to R A P I N G me. You put my morals on trial out of everyone’s in that situations and you think that’s normal or okay?

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    [–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

    Tempting, but I think the rest of the community should be able to decide that too. Not a public trial or anything, but like, a message to bir or peaking sort of deal.

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      [–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      I don’t disagree that masks has been a frequently troublesome user, and in my experience has yet to make a good faith argument. I just don’t wanna have the power to have someone banned. I’d rather it wasn’t my say so.

      [–]FlippyKingSadly this sub welcomes rape apologists and victim blaming. Bye! 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      I feel like this is a microcosm of the whole set of problems this sub is about, as well as all the GC subs. Were you banned as "Catbug"?

      [–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Nah, abandoned the account cause I had planned on leaving the community due to masks, and porcelain quetzal saying he didn’t break any rules and wasn’t that out of line. Decided not to be pushed out by some feral guys and rejoined with a new account.

      [–]FlippyKingSadly this sub welcomes rape apologists and victim blaming. Bye! 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Wow, it really is a microcosm of the whole GC thing. They misbehave, whine when called out on it, the authorities play 'both you kids cut it out', and decent people suffer while pigs enjoy shit and mud, decent people leave, and we have the internet (and increasingly life) from say 2015 onward.

      [–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      It does serve as a fine example of why we are right when we say that there are transwomen out here oozing misogyny, rape apologia, and male socialisation and cling to victimhood status whilst doing so.

      [–]BiologyIsReal[M] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

      I think you need to stop telling Houseplant what she has to do.

      [–]FlippyKingSadly this sub welcomes rape apologists and victim blaming. Bye! 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

      I made 1 suggestion to her. I'm discussing the nature of this cesspool with her. CMOV2 has continually said that cmov2 is forbidden to discuss the matter but then often in the same sentence continues to make excuses for inexcusable behavior. That seems like laughing at the rules to me. I think I need to point out that the problem is CMOV2's doubling down on inexcusable behavior which, along with queztelwhateverthemod'snameis' in action caused catbug to leave. It's almost like CMOV2's behavior is no different that the rest of the TRAs behavior, make everything so intolerable so that they are all that is left. If you want to assist CMOV2 in making this place intolerable, go right ahead. I think I suggested to you what you should do if I'm the problem here.

      [–]BiologyIsReal[M] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

      She has already took her decision.

      And I already warned circling not to keep discussing the issue if circling don't want to be banned. So, you saying I'm protecting circling is completely ridiculous.

      [–]FlippyKingSadly this sub welcomes rape apologists and victim blaming. Bye! 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

      Ridiculous except for the part about circling continuing to discuss it and makes excuses for it and mischaracterize it every time circling says circling is not allowed to discuss it.

      Also, I agree she made her decision. I suggested it I think once and not since. I mentioned it to you once previously. I'm not like browbeating her into changing her mind. She's capable of reassessing that decision whenever circumstances change. But, as you see she had already left once already (edited to add once already) because of inaction regarding cmov2/masks.

      [–]BiologyIsReal[M] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

      You can drop the subject now. Every comment has a handy report button. Use it when appropriate instead of implying I'm protecting circling just because I cannot be available 24/7.

      [–]circlingmyownvoid2[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

      I still don’t understand it but that doesn’t mean I am saying you are wrong or blameworthy.

      [–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      It means that you are so incapable of empathising with a woman that you questioned her morals when there was a rapist. The morals you found objectionable enough to argue about were the morals of the raped woman.

      It implies that I am precisely wrong and blameworthy, and reprehensible for not performing what you perceive as a moral duty.

      You are so incapable of empathising with a woman that you enforced your moral framework onto how she escaped a rape to say she did not perform her duty. And you’re still doing it.

      [–]Omina_SentenziosaSarcastic Ovalord 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

      So if a "cis" man raped you, and he ended up hurt in your attempt to get away from him, you would stay there even if he could hurt you more because helping an injured rapist out is more ethical than saving yourself?

      How about those "cis" men you keep saying that assaulted you in restrooms: would you feel any duty to help them if, in an attempt to save yourself, you had managed to hurt them?

      [–]circlingmyownvoid2[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

      Me personally? Yes. But I realize that’s an unreasonable standard and wouldn’t demand anyone else do the same.

      [–]Omina_SentenziosaSarcastic Ovalord 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

      And yet, even if you consider it an unreasonable standard, you had no problem spending the entirety of a thread "subtly" implying that anyone who doesn' t help their rapist is a heartless, horrible, immoral human being? And when you were called out on it you either doubled down or pretended that you never supported that position.

      [–]circlingmyownvoid2[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

      I’m done talking about it.

      Read what I just wrote. I’m not holding anyone else to the standard of care I put on myself.

      [–]BiologyIsReal[M] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

      If you're done talking about it, then drop the subject already as you have been told! If I see one more comment of yours talking about this, or saying how you were misunderstood or whatever, or saying you're not allowed to talk about it, then I am going to ban you immediately. I won't care if you're replying to anyone else.

      [–]circlingmyownvoid2[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

      Then tell them to stop bringing it up! I’m happy to let it lie and not comment on accurate takes but do you expect me to sit and just let people straight up lie about what was actually said. The language i used Is right there I’m happy to not reply to people quoting it.

      I don’t want to talk about it. That’s why I wasn’t the one who brought it up.

      [–]BiologyIsReal[M] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Like I said I won't care if you're replying to someone else. There is no need to correct anyone about what was said because I linked your previous conversation with Houseplant. Anyone can judge it for themselves.