What is gender nonconformity to you?

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[–]BiologyIsReal 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Having boundaries is not the same as being conservative. If I'm at a restaurant and a couple start having sex right there, I would told them to get a room. I don't care if it a straight couple or a gay one because I didn't consent to a porn spectacle. If they say they need to have public sex in order to get off, too bad, they will have to find a willing audience. If they can't do that because they get off on getting other people uncomfortable, then I would judge them as the perverts they are.

And you don't need to tell anyone about any porn plot. Can't you have a conversation that doesn't involve porn for once?

[–]theory_of_thisan actual straight crossdresser 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Having boundaries is not the same as being conservative.

So what is the policy implication of this?

Can't you have a conversation that doesn't involve porn for once?

Sure we can talk about reported fantasies.

[–]BiologyIsReal 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So what is the policy implication of this?

You're acting like TRAs here. TRAs say that GC people are socially conservative because conservatives also recognizes there are only two sexes. Nevermind any differences between ideologies. You say GC people are using conservative talking points because conservative people critizes pornography and certain sexual practices too. You're no recognizing the differences in our arguments and reasonings.

Sure we can talk about reported fantasies.

Wow! Way to completely miss the point, dude! OP has said she intended this thread to be about gender nonconformoty in general. You're the only who keep focusing on sex because apparently you cannot dissociate gender non-conformity or conformity with the sexual act.

[–]theory_of_thisan actual straight crossdresser 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Leaving aside narrow trans topics. I think GC has at least two camps. One more radical and one more socially conservative. But they often both overlap with a conservative position on men.

I recall watching a video of a butch gc woman mocking transwomen. It was very focused on complaining about the femininity of those people. If it was a man talking it would easily fit into the category of a masculine man mocking femininity in men.

I'm for gender non conformity in men and women. But that pattern is going to include men doing things that are the very things gc women on the radical side are often looking to escape from.

Way to completely miss the point, dude!

Sexuality is part of gender norms.

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If it was a man talking

It wasn’t a man though. I don’t know why so many men think the “what if the genders were reversed” thought experiment which always ignores the context of all of history and present culture is smart or useful