GC: Why is there more focus on trans women than trans men?

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[–]Penultimate_Penance 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (52 children)

Receipts please. We got plenty of em' ranging from threats, hate mobs hellbent on destroying people's livelihood to assault & murder from the trans activist side. Make sure they are actually from gender critical people. Avoid false equivalences. Saying a man doesn't pass is not equivalent to rape & death threats. Not even close.

A lot of trans activists like to lump conservative homophobes with gender critical people when those two groups are polar opposites. One thing I know for certain. The biggest threat to trans people are men. Why are trans activists so hyper focused on 'terfs' instead of the Johns & homophobic men who are actually doing the killing? Interesting that the people who disagree are vehemently hated, threatened and attacked, but the actual killers, the actual threats to trans people safety for the most part get barely a fraction of the criticism. Gender critical people don't hate trans people, we just want you to stop violating our boundaries and destroying women's rights. No means no. Women's freedom matters more than men's feelings or desire for 'validation'. Women don't owe men shit, no matter what they personally believe.

Trans activists actions are just as bad as the religious tyrants that didn't allow people to voice disagreement or dissent. They thought they were righteous and just too. I'm happy to be on the side that doesn't hang dead rats on a rape crisis shelter's doors with the express purpose of terrorizing rape victims, because god forbid any women anywhere ever being allowed to say no to men.

[–]Greensquidsphone 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (51 children)

Saying a man doesn't pass is not equivalent to rape & death threats. Not even close.

Thank you for telling me what a death threat isn't. Thank you, i had no idea, turns out all those death threats were just people trying to politely tell me I dont pass. /s

I get it, you have the monopoly on oppression, you win.

I also appreciate the three massive paragraphs which basically boil down to "but that isn't us so why should I care."

1)I didn't say it was you. In fact i didn't blame any group at all. I was just joking about your asinine rant about how bad you have it as though trans people... Don't? I guess?

2)it literally IS you. Not in as high a ratio as the literal neo Nazis, but don't worry, radfems have taken themselves a slice of the pie as well. Most of the radfem targeted harassment I've gotten though is doxxing, in fairness to all of you lovely individuals.

Why are trans activists so hyper focused on 'terfs' instead of the Johns & homophobic men who are actually doing the killing?

I mean... They are? You realize they can be upset at both of you at once, and while they ARE out here killing us, radfems certainly aren't innocent considering how aggressively they're trying to legislate out trans people in the uk (and now other pockets of the world too woohoo...)

[–]ZveroboyAlinaIs clownfish a clown or a fish? 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (46 children)

You was asked for receipts and examples, not for sarcasms. Opposite examples there hundreds and thousands. The whole reason why we are on Saidit now is one such big example.

[–]Greensquidsphone 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (45 children)

I was also told that ive never actually recieved death threats, which was a very cool and hip response.

And if you really want receipts and examples, you will have to wait until im not at work, and then wait longer for me to edit my address out of them, but sure.

[–]ZveroboyAlinaIs clownfish a clown or a fish? 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (44 children)

I mixed you with "GenderBender", who is female, not transwoman. Thought it was her answer, as it started from questions to her.

However, any receipts? And were those threats from GC women, feminists and for reason of you beaing trans?

[–]Greensquidsphone 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (43 children)

However, any receipts

I love repeating myself. Yes. I am at work. I will be for a while, my shifts are 12 hours long. When I get home I will edit out the doxxed addresses and post them.

And were those threats from GC women, feminists and for reason of you beaing trans?

Once again, I love repeating myself. Yes. I can say confidently some were. Again, a larger portion were alt right kiddos, but yes.

[–]ZveroboyAlinaIs clownfish a clown or a fish? 7 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 5 fun -  (42 children)

Thank you. However, I was asking not about personal receipts, but more general receipts, systematic ones, I am pretty sure in rare cases it is possible for some GC to be agressive (like adungitut in this sub or Posie Parker), after being tired of being threatened themselves. However, I can't see it happening in general, only locally and mostly in conservative places.

And any receipts of transgender organizations or groups being deplatformed by GC women?

[–]Greensquidsphone 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (41 children)

I mean... Im not really a part of any so... No? I know a twitter user who sells diy meds who has had her site taken down on more than one occasion and at least one of them was radfems, I guess that counts?

Guess that saves me the trouble of remembering to deal with my own after work though lol

after being tired of being threatened themselves

So it's the victims fault then, got it. Jesus Christ you guys can do no wrong I swear. I threatened no one. Still got doxxed and threatened. Fuck off with that shit.

I'll report it for any good that'll do with 3 biased mods.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (35 children)

Is it bad to be involved in stopping the illegal sale of scheduled drugs to people who are not prescribed the drug?

Like I’d have been extremely immoral I’d if sold off my grandmothers dilaudid after she died. How are potentially harmful drugs with zero guarantee of purity ok to sell?

[–]Greensquidsphone 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (34 children)

I'd say generally it's bad to deny people medical access but here we are.

Oh, and just for clarification, not illegal, though ddosing someone's website is.

Hi house, you get to see the eclipse earlier? It was too cloudy where I was.

[–]ZveroboyAlinaIs clownfish a clown or a fish? 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I know a twitter user who sells diy meds who has had her site taken down on more than one occasion

That most likely is not very legal (and in some countries completely illegal), so nothing surprising.

So it's the victims fault then, got it.

You are reading the opposite of what I wrote. I said I can understand why those two people can be "not nice", I did not said that I agree with them.

I threatened no one. Still got doxxed and threatened. Fuck off with that shit.

And it is horrible. Many GC are anonymous because of this, as a lot of trans activists are doxxing us and trying to contact our employe and insisting on them firing us, so we never can get new jobs. I know that /u/ColoredTwice was doxxed and almost murdered, but she miarclous survived. It was because she is lesbian and not because she is radfem, if I remember correctly, I can't find that post in her history, seems she deleted it.

I'll report it for any good that'll do with 3 biased mods.

Report what?

[–]Greensquidsphone 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (3 children)

You are reading the opposite of what I wrote.

In response to my saying I've been targeted with harassment by gcers you said

I am pretty sure in rare cases it is possible for some GC to be agressive (like adungitut in this sub or Posie Parker), after being tired of being threatened themselves.

after being tired of being threatened themselves.

Like I can't read that any differently than 'sure that sucks but think about how they feel too'

Many GC are anonymous because of this, as a lot of trans activists are doxxing us...

Yes, yes, I get it, you are much more oppressed.

And for the billionth time today

most likely is not very legal

Quite legal. Ddosing however is not.

[–]Penultimate_Penance 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Trans people are trying to destroy women in the law. Erasing 50% of the population under the law of the population is not okay. Destroying safeguarding for 50% of the population is not okay. We're protecting ourselves from a group of people who are destroying rights that women have been fighting for for centuries. Rights that are essential for women to participate in public life. Rights that are very precarious. I recommend reading "I am Malala" if you haven't already. All it takes is one batshit crazy misogynist group gaining enough power and women's rights go out the window. Any group that threatens women's right is a big fucking deal.

The horror of not allowing gender identity to replace sex in the law. The horror of not allowing men to violate women's boundaries. We're defending ourselves. You understand if trans activists actually respected women's boundaries and rights I would have no political beef with them right? I would still believe the entire concept of gender identity is sexist as fuck but I would tolerate the gender soul believers, much in the same way I tolerate religious people. What I will not tolerate is Trans activists destroying women's rights & boundaries and expecting us to lie down and take it. Hell no.