GC: How to know the sex of an intersex person? Are intersex people not 100% male or female?

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[–]IWoreWhat 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (4 children)

In general, we are accepting people with CAIS as women in society, but as males in healtcare. They were raised as normal and regular girls, everyone thinks they are girls/women, because in everything but inner biology they are like girls/women. So it would be extremely rude and unethical to out them to everyone but closest people and medical personel.

You say this is not like "transwomen" eventhough it is. Just because people with CAIS think they are female, doesn't mean they are female. That's gender identity for you.

They have no female sex organs? Then they are male, and I'm not using she/her or woman for people with CAIS.

If it's not rude to call a "transwoman" he/him, man, and male, it's not rude to call people with CAIS he/him, man and male.

You sound like trans right activists. "Trans people are not under an obligation to tell you their sex, you should address them by their pronouns and preferred gender if they pass, and it would be rude and disrespectful not to" has become "people with CAIS are actually male, but identify as women, so you should address them the way they want, and it would be rude and disrespectful not to".

People with CAIS do not have female sex organs. Even if they have boobs, and pass as a woman, they are not women. Just like a "trans woman" that passes is not a woman.

People with CAIS are either male or female. They don't get to lie they are female/women when they are not, and make me or others change the way we speak, just like "trans women" don't get to lie they are female/women.

I don't think you understand how morality works either. If I see someone that passes as a woman, and I use she/her for them, but later on find out they were a man, I would feel deceived. It's not different when males with CAIS do this, and make everyone think they are women/female when they are not.

[–]ColoredTwiceIntersex female, medical malpractice victim, lesbian 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You ignored 99% of the post.

They have extremely rare condition that their phenotype is almost exacly life female one, and no one knows they are male including them until 16-20 years old. In general they even have labia and vulva which is not the same as cosmetic surgical

you sound like trans riggts activist

Are you trolling?

Plus - answer my questions. Why you ignored them? Then answer at least this one:

WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO HURT PEOPLE WITH EXTREMELY RARE AND PAINFUL MEDICAL CONDITION AND OUT THEM FOR HURT???

Unlike transwomen - people with CAIS never were raised as men, no one ever considered them as men, they never knew themselves they are males. And this fact always hurts them a lot - as they realizing they are infertile and everything so far was a lie.

Amd here comes you and laughing at medical condition that require treatment and asking to hurt even more.

change the way we speak

lie

You are clearly troll. WHY ARE YOU IGNORING 99% OF WHAT BEING TOLD?

I am blocking you from now on.

[–]IWoreWhat 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

I ignored the rest because you answered the questions and revealed people with CAIS are males. That was the only part that needed addressing.

I don't care that men with CAIS were raised to think they are women and everyone around them is so stupid to think they are women. My view is truth is better than lies even if it "hurts".

And yeah, please continue calling anyone who disagrees a troll. Amidst the caps locks and extreme shouting in your comment, I didn't once call YOU a troll. It's hilarious.

[–]ColoredTwiceIntersex female, medical malpractice victim, lesbian 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I explained you everything. All positions.

You ignored them and asked same question again.

You ignored all my queations.

You are not acting in good faith. Either you are troll, or completely dumb.

Good bye.

[–]VioletRemihomosexual female (aka - lesbian) 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This person reminds me one discussion I had in this sub with one banned guy previously.

He was asking same question over and over, I was giving him big posts, with dozen links and researches, but he was just "admit you are wrong" and asking same question.

He just wanted compliance, he did not wanted to know the answer on questions.

This person looks absolutely like that guy. Such entitlement, lack of empathy and narcissism. "All will be my way, and if you disagree, I will annoy and attack you until you agree" - it is very common for abusive people to act like this. My father was gaslighting and attacking like this too. Even when he know he is wrong, he was day after day insisting we agree with him, and no other answer he was accepting.

It is "Do it to Julia" tactics from 1984, they will annoy you until you gave up and accept their terms, they don't care about truth and about people.