GC: How can sex be unchangeable, when the body constantly changes? And throughout evolution, unicellular organisms transitioned and changed to the multicellular organisms we call humans?

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

Except, there's nothing fundamentally impossible about sex change. There is no law or physical rule that says we cannot do it, given enough technology. We're just scratching the surface of the possibilities of gene therapies. As well as getting close to growing organs to match someone's cells.

Everything you said is predicated on the assumption that genes cannot be changed, but we know this to be untrue.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Well derrple, when sex change actually successfully happens go ahead and make a post about it. Until then, born male die male, born female die female, males aren’t women, females aren’t men, transwomen aren’t women, transmen aren’t men, that’s just how the cookie crumbles until scientists figure something else out for you

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I'm content in the meantime to just hide my sex to everyone except partners. Normal people aren't looking in someone's pants to determine whether they're a man or a woman.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Imagine being content to be deceitful lmao. Bye

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Why would I want to be open about it? Maleness is disgusting, so I hide that I am.

[–]BiologyIsReal 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yes, you're right. Normal people aren't looking into someone else's pants to determine whether they're a woman or a man. Normal people can still determine whether someone is a man or a woman without doing this, though.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It's not difficult to fool people with the right mix of luck, hormone therapy, etc.

[–]BiologyIsReal 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's actually quite difficult to hide your sex, especially for males. Trans natal females seem to be more likely to "pass", but that may because I've only seen them in pictures. In contrast, even in pictures, trans natal males are usually obviously males.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It depends on the person's genetics and the lengths to which they'll go to change their body and voice, but it's still possible.

[–]MarkTwainiac 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

We're just scratching the surface of the possibilities of gene therapies.

Gene therapies are aimed at making it possible to override, delete, select or "turn on" or "silence" individual genes or mutations. That's a far cry from being able to change a person's sex chromosomes! It's basically chalk and cheese, in fact.

Changing sex chromosomes would be a tall order since they are present in each and every one of the human body's many trillion individual cells.

As well as getting close to growing organs to match someone's cells.

Please share links to the research being done showing that it's possible or likely that female cells can be used to grow sperm-producing testicles and male cells can be used to grow egg-containing ovaries. I'd be very interested to learn of this research.

My understanding is that when it comes to growing new organs from a person's cells, the organs would have to be ones consistent with the person's sex chromosomes and species. Otherwise male TRAs wouldn't be so focused on and exercised about the possibility of getting surgeries that would implant in them the uteri, ovaries and vaginas taken from the bodies of girls and women - they'd be supporting the technology that will allow them simply to grow their own. Similarly, furries and those who "identify as" animals wouldn't have rely on costumes or fake headgear any more coz they could simply grow their own animal fur/hides, paws, tails and the like - and their own kitten ears, antlers and elephant tusks too. Probably their own unicorn horns to boot.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Changing sex chromosomes would be a tall order since they are present in each and every one of the human body's many trillion individual cells. Idk, I don't personally find it hard to imagine a helpful virus that could do such a thing, either cause cells to produce a second copy of an X chromosome, or to insert the SRY gene onto an existing X chromosome.

they'd be supporting the technology that will allow them simply to grow their own

I am, lol.

[–]MarkTwainiac 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

As I asked before, please cite - and provide links to - the research showing this is being done. Keeping this earth-shattering information all to yourself is not very "inclusive," is it?

[–]MarkTwainiac 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Still waiting, derple.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I am not a biologist. However I think it's rash to insist something is impossible or will never happen unless we know it to be impossible according to scientific laws. There is no such scientific law against sex change.